On Fri, 2 Mar 2007, Yonah Russ wrote:

I am confused... is there any adult in this country who wants to be
fingerprinted to be able to check his email or chat in an adult chat
group (perhaps looking for a mate, perhaps not using very academic
language all the time - i.e. without resorting to Victorian code along
the lines of 'I wish I could tickle you softly' when someone means
something entirely different, yes) ?

Someone with nothing to hide probably doesn't care. On the other hand, if
their afraid that someone could find out what they're doing, maybe they
shouldn't be doing it? Besides, I don't see any reason why the resulting
identification system has to be personally traceable.

The MI will strongly disagree. They are oh so near to nab all the potential kiddie p0rn lovers, and eavesdrop on everyone just in case (not that this does not happen already - I have had a quasi static IP on DSL for a few years now, without paying anything - ah the perks, the recognition !). And then there's the tax office, and politics (nothing like publishing a logged chat session to shoot down an inconvenient politician or officer's carreer five to ten years after the fact - see what they do in the US about this for details).

By the way, your kids *do* go to the beach from time to time (without wearing blindfolds) ? Or not ?

My kids are under 4 years old so they don't surf the web or the waves ;) but
I don't really want them to be surfing porn sites when they grow up.

By the time they grow up 8 year olds will likely crack public terminals using ninja handwaves and eyeblinks in front of the mandatory biometric id devices.

Sorry for asking, there is no need to answer, I'm just mumbling to
myself. Of course I fully endorse setting up firewalls and content
filters of any kind you wish at *your* premises. At a cost.

That's what people do now and it is less than effective. If you are worried
about the investments necessary by the ISP's, I say start taxing porn users
and take the money to pay the ISPs for their work. If this country can tax a
$12k car into a 120k NIS car, they can tax porn users (and cigarette smokers
while they're at it).

As you say, 'That's what people do now and it is less than effective'. More exactly: the great china firewall has helped arrest about 20 times more potential political dissidents than kiddie p0rn amateurs, with excellent cooperation from the greatest technology Names from the land of all possibilities and freedom: CI*** Ya*** M** and G*****. This has not stopped either piracy, p0rn, or political dissidence. On the contrary, all of these work much better now because they use cloaking, vpns, and things like tor.net as a standard, plus every blogger in China must use at least five pseudonyms since one of them was jailed for posting something inconvenient about some comrade or other. Egyptian bloggers recently learned the value of having untraceable nom de blogs recently, the hard way.

As a result, nearly all downloads of tools which can implement these measures are blocked in China. That includes all Linux and BSD downloads of course, and many times access to linux mailing list archives. This country already 'shines' by being the only 'developed' country that does not have a Debian mirror, among other things. Just wait for what is coming next ? Do I have to dot the Is on how this affects Linux and BSD users in Israel ?

Peter

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