At mapa.co.il they would have to pay a small registration fee to use
the full features :)...

Just to make it clear: I think all this terrorist stuff is bogus.

  Alon

On 10/25/07, Amos Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 26/10/2007, Geoffrey S. Mendelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 02:43:41PM +1000, Amos Shapira wrote:
> > > Unless you have more info about this than the average person in the
> street I
> > > assume we are both speculating on how they do this but as far as I'm
> aware:
> >
> > Actually I do. Growing up in the U.S. in the 1960's made one either
> > blissfully ignorant of this, or very much upon the things. I even
> > launched my own rockets, but the most dangerous payload was a
> > walkie-talkie stripped of it's case and having the transmit button
> > jammed so we could locate it. It went all of about 10 feet. :-)
>
> Nice. Bdale Garbi (former Debian leader and HP OpenSource CTO or somesuch)
> talked about his rocket-related and hobist satellite exploits on both
> occasions that I met him.
>
> But I was referring to the way the rocket launchers organize, not the
> rockets.
>
> > > 1. Those rockets are far too inaccurate to aim - two rockets fired from
> the
> > > same spot, direction, angle etc. (even ignoring atmospheric differences)
> > > will land at pretty wide circle of target.
> >
> > How wide? They are not cruise missles and can't be aimed to hit an office
> > second from the left on the second floor of a 10 story building, but
> > if you fire enough of them, you can aim them within a block or two.
>
> Do you know this for sure or are you just estimating?
>
> > Don't forget that while the people in Gaza have things that are home made,
> > they are far better than the fireworks rocket that was used in the news
> > article. Hizbollah has Iranian made rockets which are a lot more
> consistent.
> >
> > > 2. This still doesn't say how the Israeli users missing on a convenient
> > > service prevents the terrorists on the other side of the fence from
> finding
> > > out the location by simply opening up a map, as they already say that
> they
> > > do in the news item that you brought.
> >
> > Because combining things makes them simpler. You may be able to combine
> > them sitting at your desk, but if you are in a field knowng that the IDF
> > is already on their way, coordinating a strike with cell phones, with a
> > spotter and someone at the "control center" on a computer, is a lot
> > easier if they have one database to search instead of 2 or 3.
> >
> >
> > > I'm still not with you about why not having street names on Google Maps
> > > (while being able to get them on mapa.co.il, ynet maps, GPS software
> etc)
> > > will prevent or even hinder their attacks, while at the same time people
> who
> > > live in Israel miss out on the greatest mapping tool I've seen.
> >
> > See above.
> >
> > Try it some time. Call a friend on your cell phone and as your are driving
> > or riding on a bus, call out street names as you pass them. See how long
> it
> > takes to use one database, two, three or four.
>
> Then go to mapa.co.il or ynet maps(?) or even MS's maps and get that in one
> place, so what's the excuse now?
>
> --Amos
>
>

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