I'm not sure what do you mean by Bezeq, but I currently ping the pptp ip
address (before connecting to the internet), which is in the 172.x.x.x
subnet.
would this be the actually server located in the ISP? I see about 3ms
difference between the internet first hop and the pptp server....

Thanks,
Ohad

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 4:00 PM, Geoff Shang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ohad Levy wrote:
>
>  I know what a tunnel is, the main problem is to identify if the problem
> > is
> > hot related or isp related.
> > obviously, if hot is the problem, the first hop over the internet is
> > already
> > effected.
> >
> > the main question is if pinging to hot ip range (in this case its the
> > server
> > which starts the pptp tunnel) actually prove that its not isp related
> > rather
> > than an infrastruture problem in hot.
> >
>
> No.  If you ping a Hot IP, you're going to go through that affected tunnel
> connection to Bezeq first, then via them to the Hot machine.  The only way
> you could ping Hot infrastructure directly is if you can do it via the
> ethernet connection directly rather than via the tunnel.  This will of
> course be entirely dependent on their routing and what they'll let through
> if anything.
>
> Geoff.
>
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