I cannot discuss this further when you refuse to give ANY factual data. You
publicy trash people (the abuse@ and all the other people behind that ISP) with
quite a harsh words, and refuse to back it up with facts.
You, yet again, dismiss my attempts to help you, saying it's won't help (???).
It seems you don't really want to be helped, but just taking advantage of the
free and cheap shot.
I will be glad if you can also forward these complaints you say that have been
ignored by the abuse@ - I'm also interested to know why they were ignored.
If you have sensetive information you don't want posted on this list - you can
always mail it to me off-list.
I must emphasize this - almost 24 hours after the original flametory post, I
still didn't get ANYTHING to work with.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] בשם Arik Baratz
Date: ו 25/07/2008 05:21
To: linux-il
Subject: Re: Israeli ISP and Blacklisting
On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Imri Zvik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Let me get this straight - You claim you already know of a specific
user that is abusing you over and over. You complain that this ISP is not
willing to help. I'm offering to help you, and I'm in the position to do so.
You refuse with the lame excuse I (or the company I work for) might sue
you? COME ON. Sounds quite evasive to me. If you really care and want something
to be done, you can use my help - If you want to continue with this trolling,
please, stop wasting my time.
This doesn't become you, Imri.
I will send the LIST OF USERS that are spamming me to the abuse address. If
hypothetically, you are the ISP discussed, you should be able to help me then.
Just give me some time to write a python script to download my spam folders and
sort through the headers to find them.
Besides, what good does it do to me that you're going to close the users'
account this one singular time? I'm talking about years of continued abuse by
many of your users. It's not going to be a one-off, and if mail to abuse
doesn't seem to help, this one-off isn't going to do much of a difference
anyway.
So if I automate my scripts to the level that I can trust them to run
unattended, I might be able to make it run on a regular basis and send
automated messages to abuse, complete with headers and PGP signed, and then
create a graph showing exactly how effective the abuse complaints are (i.e. how
many messages I got after the first complaint and for how long). It might be an
interesting experiment. I have however just recently relocated and am still
pretty busy in a new role, location, country and continent so it will take some
time.
If it works out I might even do it for all Israeli ISPs and track it on a web
page... Hmm...
-- Arik
