On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Geoffrey S. Mendelson
<[email protected]>wrote:

> On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 10:44:44PM +0200, Erez D wrote:
>
>> The ideal case for you is to use a dvb-s/dvb-s2 card, a card reader and a
>> YES smart card.
>> you will not need an STB (memir) for this, and you get the digital signal
>> with no quality loss.
>> you will also probably be able to watch/record multiple programs with one
>> dvb-s card if they share frequencies (both myth and vdr support that).
>>
>> i am not a YES subscriber, and i have never done that with YES, but i
>> think
>> i read about people which have done this.
>>
>
> AFAIK It won't work. YES uses NDS encryption, which is not supported by

so what ? i heard that this method worked with sky-uk (and the use NDS)

>
> that type of hardware. There are companies that sell digital satellite
> packages to that do include encryption cards that allow you to provide
> your own hardware, but they don't sell to Israel.
>
> I don't know if YES program guides can be downloaded off of the Internet
> or not, the English ones can not.

they can.

>
>  I don't know if there are legal issues here. but as i see it, you are not
>> stealing if you have legit smart cards from YES.
>>
>
> That's correct. But only with companies that let you use your own hardware.
> YES does not.
>
> BTW, if you want channels 1, 10,22,23,33 and 99, they may be available over
> the air as digital TV in April. I say may because when the Kenesset wanted
> to include channel 9 (Russian language Israeli commerical channel), both
> HOT
> and YES said they would go out of business if they did, they dropped it.
>
if you are connected to a YES dish. you can get 1,10,22,23,33,99
unencrypted, just need a regular (NON-YES) memir.

>
> Expect there to be legal challenges.
>
>
> Geoff.
> --
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel [email protected]  N3OWJ/4X1GM
>

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