On Thursday 08 October 2009, shimi wrote:
> The right way to do it is not with an Access Point. Someone needs to
> "multiplex" your connection to multiple devices. Since you have just
> one external IP address, someone needs to "share" it between your
> multiple machines and do "magic" that makes it (multiple unicast
> machines between one unicast address) work. We call that magic-maker a
> "NAT router" (which basically every home router does). 

Yeah, I realize that I need NAT (or PAT in Cisco terms), but I thought (I 
admit I didn't check) that the AP might do the NAT. 

> So what you
> need is an Ethernet router (with an Ethernet port on his WAN port).

Thing is, I was wondering why I need a router. I don't need it to do any 
routing decisions (unless I want to share files between connected PCs, 
which I don't). I do need NAT, but I kind of thought an AP would do that.

> 
> Then I would suggest that you ditch the "dialing" part of the loop. If
> you don't, your router must support L2TP protocol to work with all
> ISPs. That doesn't always work well, even if supported. The preferred
> solution, IMHO, is to ask your ISP to move you to a dialer-less
> connection (which they dub "MPLS") and then just set the router to
> "obtain IP from DHCP" - and you never have problems again.

Does anyone want to comment on these two possibities - L2TP on the router 
versus MPLS ? Do common routers (eg. Edimax BR6204WG) support L2TP ? Is my 
ISP (HOT) likely to give me a MPLS connection without fee/hassle ? Are 
there any other solutions ?

> It also
> gives you pretty much a static IP, as long as you don't turn off your
> equipment for a long period.
> 
> Also I don't think you can buy a router with a built in cable port in
> Israel... I haven't seen such in stores... and even if you do, HOT
> will have to agree to connect it to their network (they must put the
> MAC address on their systems for this to work...) - which I am really
> not sure they would agree.

Well if that's the case, I certainly don't want to try replace the "modem" 
supplied by HOT.


> 
> My 7.4 agorot,
> 

Thanks - worth at least 7.4 agorot !


> -- Shimi
> 
> On 10/8/09, Aharon Schkolnik <aschkol...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi.
> >
> > I am currently connected to the Internet via a HOT cable connection
> > using the modem supplied by them and a single ethernet connection to
> > my PC. I bring up the connection using a script which uses pptp. The
> > PC also boots XP which connects using whatever program HOT supplied.
> >
> > I now need to ADD a wireless connection in addition to the fixed
> > ethernet connection (for a laptop). For my taste, the "right" thing to
> > do is to attach a wireless access point to the HOT modem. Since the
> > modem has only a single ethernet connection, the access point would
> > have to include an ethernet connection for the PC in addition to the
> > ethernet connection to the HOT modem. The only problem with this
> > solution is the cost - an  ACCESS POINT D-LINK DAP-1160 costs over 300
> > NIS.
> >
> > My question is: should I consider buying a modem with
> > cable+wireless+ethernet and using it instead of the HOT modem ? Will I
> > save significant money ? Will I have trouble if I need support from
> > HOT ? What modems work with HOT ? Are there problems setting them up
> > to work to support Linux and XP ?
> >
> >
> > TIA.
> >
> > --
> >   The day is short, and the work is great,    |  Aharon Schkolnik
> >   and the laborers are lazy, and the reward   |
> >   is great, and the Master of the house is    |  aschkol...@gmail.com
> >   impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2    |  054 3344135
> 


-- 
  The day is short, and the work is great,    |  Aharon Schkolnik
  and the laborers are lazy, and the reward   |  
  is great, and the Master of the house is    |  aschkol...@gmail.com
  impatient. - Ethics Of The Fathers Ch. 2    |  054 3344135

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