On Saturday, 31 בOctober 2009 16:40:47 Diego Iastrubni wrote:
> On Friday 30 October 2009 01:40:07 Oron Peled wrote:
> > > I rather hate NetworkManager, too ;-). However, from
> > > the system point of view, I'd naively expect hal, udev, dbus, network,
> > > etc. to work without a "policy kit" developed by GUI people (I
> > > understand it comes from Gnome).

Please try to cut the lines better next time. It looks like I said
the above paragraph, while in reality it was Oleg...

> > However, you are correct that it's easy to see its GNOME origins. There
> > is no command line client. This is not because the design is bad
> > or architectural limitations --- nobody bothered writing one yet.

> You can try wicd, I tested it under Debian and it was "pretty good". I don't 
> know how it will break Fedroa by killing NetworkManager and installing wicd

What does it have to do with the subject?

We discussed PolicyKit, integration with NetworkManager, lack of good
command line integration and how bad is running big program stacks
(GUI) as suid programs:
  1. wicd is a GUI program (it uses GTK).
  2. Like many similar older programs, there's no NetworkManager integration.
  3. Therefore they all need to run as root (via suid/sudo/kdesu/etc)

Cheers,

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