I agree, the gamers package is not what I would expect from ISP in ideal world.
But as my SSH connections are working much better when I use the Gamers package, I have no other choice but to follow along. I prefer paying 20-30 nis more then working with a poor connection. My work output dramatically change when the latency drops. -------------------------------------------------- Michael Ben-Nes - Internet Consultant and Director. http://www.epoch.co.il - weaving the Net. Cellular: 054-4848113 -------------------------------------------------- 2009/11/5 Justin <[email protected]> > I'm a die hard capitalist, I believe you should go with whomever gives you > the best service for the best price. > > But Bezeq and Netvision are huge companies, and yet they offer not one > thing more than the small ISPs (those that are left). > > I remember being a customer of ACT.com and couldn't have been happier. The > moment they were bought by BBL service turned to crap. Connections wouldn't > stay up, VOiP quality declined, and service requests (what few I'd needed > under ACT) took days instead of minuets. > > On top of all that ALL larger ISPs in Israel block ports and use traffic > shaping. > > It's insane that after I've paid BBL for a connection of a 5Mb that I need > to pay them another 20NIS for a gamers package so that VOiP can work (when > VOiP could work as well on an unthrottled line 1/4 the size). If they > downgrade P2P traffic, I understand that. I don't like it, but I understand > it. But VOiP is not bandwidth intensive standards, and doesn't degrade the > network. Gamers, even hard core gamers, aren't online enough that they > saturate their slice of the bandwidth. THE ONLY REASON to downgrade traffic > for VOiP or gamers is to justify taking more money from them. > > The large ISPs have every opportunity to offer a superior product. They > have efficiency of scale on their sides. But at the end of the day small > businesses are still offering a better service, because they don't have the > marketing capacity to simply replace abused customers. > > > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Dotan Cohen <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Not trying to flame anyone, but Mickey Israeli IS one of the owners of >> > Comm.net.il >> > (see: >> http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=comm.net.il&do_search=Search >> ), >> > so comm.net.il is very small and one of the owners (or the owner). I'm >> not >> > saying it's a bad thing, but being tiny has some advantages and some >> > disadvantages, for example: you're paying a very high price for your >> > connection compared to what other people here on this list pays, but >> > I definitely understand your reasons. >> >> I would definitely pay more for quality internet access. I am happily >> paying 5₪ more per month to Bezeq Beilleumi per month than I was >> paying to the theives known as Netvision. At Netvision they refused to >> diagnose connection problems, blaming my Infrastructure (Bezeq). Now >> they are suing me for not paying them when they refused to even check >> the connection issues. They want our money, not our business. I would >> rather give someone else even _more_ money who is interested in >> keeping me happy as a lifetime customer. >> >> -- >> Dotan Cohen >> >> http://what-is-what.com >> http://gibberish.co.il >> > > > > -- > There must be a beginning of any great matter, but the continuing unto the > end until it be thoroughly finished yields the true glory. -- Sir Francis > Drake > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > >
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