Quoting Stan Goodman, from the post of Sun, 29 May: > > Please enlighten me: When he says that the reason Israel doesn't fortify > the "border" with the PA, but instead puts up a fence (the one that the > PA calls 'Die WAAAALL") specifically to separate Palestinians from their > lands, that is not blatantly anti-Israel? That doesn't project the image > of the diabolical Jew? In my naivete, I would have thought otherwise.
Not every CRITICISM against a policy is automatically a rejection of the state that performed it. I think the wall is a horrible humanitarian, ecological, humane and ethical decision. It's not just me and the UN and the EU and the US that think that, it's also the supreme court of ISRAEL. are you of the opinion that we are all anti-Israeli, supreme court of your own country included? > Why I said it was twisted is that the fence is, of course, a > fortification, and it exists for reasons not unlike those for which the fence is collective punishment against an entire population. the fence is also creating humanitarian problems, seperating people from property, livelihood, schools, hospitals and beaurocracy. It's also seperating them from hope and reconciliation. it's creating more enemis than it is stopping, it is costing billions of my tax payer money. It is also a very obviuos way of setting the border without negotiations. I could go on, but if you believe the fence is a good thing you are either heartless, racist or a sucker that would swallow anything his government tells you. Also, see what I did there? I didn't only criticize my government, I actually accused it of crimes. Still it's my legal freedom to do so. I didn't say Israel is not a legitimate country, I'm not anti Israeli because I believe there are better ways to do this without violence and oppression. If I thought for a moment that this was irreversible, and the country IS indeed hopelessly racist, I would stop trying to change it for the good, leave here and call myself an anti-Israeli. Not proudly. I'm glad we are not there yet. > Why would anybody want to listen to this man? Do you think he would > stand in front of an Israeli audience and not lecture it on the criminal > way Israel treats peaceful terrorists? And everybody in the audience that's a false dichotomy and straw man in one blow. please stick to facts. > Where is this man from? I understand him to be a Brit, is that right? So Well, seems you know less about RMS and Democracy than he knows about the Israel-Palestine conflict. Congrats. Go get educated before you can state your opinions in public. -- Ira Abramov http://ira.abramov.org/email/ _______________________________________________ Linux-il mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
