On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 08:49:46PM +0300, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> SF>> > So, what you are saying is that if you ask 10 people, you are sure to
> SF>> > find someone who regularilyembeds office OLE in other documents, somone
> SF>> > (possibly else) who regularily embeds his own OLE inside office,
> SF>>
> SF>> I have used OLE to put Excel spreadsheets into Word, etc. Many other
> SF>> people do so too without realizing that. So does my father.
> 
> I did that too, even recently. Though I wasn't entirely satisifed by the
> performance of this combo (has too many glitches and it doesn't really
> embeds it as I wanted it to be).

A real problem (bug?), that happened to me (and more severly to others
I know): when you select a small region from an Excel file and copy and
paste it to Outlook as an OLE embedding (with Word as your email editor),
it copies and pastes much more - don't know if the whole spreadsheet or
even the entire file. This can be, of course, a disaster, depending on
the difference between what you intended to copy and the rest of the
file, and the recipient of the message. In the outlook window, the
recipient will only see the selected part, but a double-click will open
up the full Excel with the entire original file.
I saw that on Office 97, but checked it now on XP and it's the same.

To generalize and emphasize (and be a bit more on-topic, at least wrt
the thread's original subject):
Not only Office has tons of features that almost nobody uses, many of
them are very badly, very un-intuitively implemented. People (and MS,
in its advertizing, which people probably believe) refer to Office (and
the "Windows world", as opposed to the "Linux world") as something which
is trivial, does not require learning or training, and yet as powerful
as can be. The truth is, Office is very powerful, but very complex,
very unintuitive, buggy, and mostly unused. We (at least in principle),
the OS/FS people, prefer things that are either simple and do not shy
being so, or powerful and also do not shy being so (and therefore are
cleaner, since they do not try to hide the complexity).
When we send mail we do _this_ or /this/ to emphasize, and when we
want to have more control on the output (to get print quality) we use
things like LaTeX. Nobody has a pressing need to send LaTeX as the basic
email format, even though we can (and it's probably even almost trivial
to make your email client run latex and show you the dvi).

        Didi


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