On Friday 30 May 2003 19:34, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > DA>> I assume you mean the Hebrew support, since packages for lyx > DA>> itself are already available on most distros. OK, so suppose > > Not including any RH besides RH9, as far as I can see on their site. Which > is nice for people who just installed their brand new linux toy, but less > nice for people who actually work with linux and that Linux happen to be > RedHat and they don't have time to reinstall all the system each time RH > marketing wants it. I thought I left this when I left Windows, but I am so > naive...
Well, that's hardly the fault of the lyx developers - you can't expect them to maintain packages for different versions of the same distro. This is the distro's job. Althouh it'd be nice to have as a fallback option completely static binaries that'd work anywhere at all, but with the qt frontend that would be quite a big binary... So let me rephrase the above: lyx is a very important package imo. There are packages for gentoo, I can't do anything for the other distros and hope those that don't have good packages, get them. On a tangent, this whole idea seems wrong to me. Many versions of the same distro that require separate packages to be maintained for each, and upgrading to a new version of the distro is a big bother (and might cost you access to packages that only exist for older releases). I don't want to start a distro flame war, but it really is something a distro should handle - either by smooth upgrading paths (reinstalling the whole system indeed), or by providing packages for a reasonable range of releases, or both. If they don't, that's a major obstacle for Joe User. > > DA>> distros bring it down to the level of just having to do sth like > DA>> "emerge lyx latex-hebrew-support lyx-hebrew-conf". Which on > DA>> gentoo will probably become, "USE=hebrew emerge lyx". As easy as > > I work with Linux about 8 years for now. I don't know what you are talking > about (I can guess, but I still don't know). How many changes average Joe > User does? Well, substitue apt-get for emerge, or rpm, or whatever else that distro uses. Really this is nitpicking. No, I wouldn't tell a newbie redhat user to emerge something. > > DA>> installing any other package - you just need to know what you > DA>> want, by name. Will that be enough? > > Yes, it probably will. But we are still in "possible" area, not in > "exists" area. That's what I see the main problem - a lot of things are > possible, but people are mostly interested in those actually existing. Well, yes, there are possibilities, and we are here to make them happen :-) These things will happen at some point - fairly soon, I hope. Meanwhile it's already good enough for a great many people, assuming they happen to use a distro that provides good lyx packages. (And yes, I will add such hebrew latex/lyx support to gentoo instead of just talking about it. If noone gets to it first fairly soon, anyway. I haven't done so yet because older versions didn't work for me, and I only tried again a couple of weeks ago.) -- Dan Armak Matan, Israel Public GPG key: http://cvs.gentoo.org/~danarmak/danarmak-gpg-public.key
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