Well, to start with I apoplogise for having this kind of an attitude towards you. And I agree with you, but only to a certain extent. Well don't you think there is a touch of carelessness that you find in most "Made in India" products in it? Do you think a magazine in the US or Europe would have gotten away with something like that?
I don't mean to justify our reaction. No, by no means am I doing that. All I'm hinting is that the sometimes attitude in even some of the better magazines gets a desi touch to it.
 
Please let me know if I'm wrong.
                                                             Sukrit.D.
 
PS: I'd like to personally congratulate Atul and PCQuest for their effort they're putting into their magazine. And I'd also like to apologise to them for the stand that I took.
 
 
 
 Rajesh saw it fir to say:
 
> On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 04:02:14PM +0000, Sukrit wrote:
>
> >this is a question i have been wanting to ask the PCQest guys for a while
> > now. and i'm sure that there must be many people who want to ask the
> > same question.
> >
> > How and why did the PCQuest redhat 6.2 CD say something like "supports
> > 810 chipset?"
 
> I don't think PCQ guys will have any answers for this. They have
> misguided people by putting that supports 810 on the CD.
 
Hmmm, it appears that Rajesh is pretty sure of his stand, without giving
the benefit of doubt. "Guilty unless proven innocent" seems to be a
popular approach in LIH, going by this example.
 
*I* am the one who put together that CD in April 2000, and PCQ
specifically made available two i810 machines to our labs to ensure that
things work with these boards. The stuff we shipped continues to work on
these machines and for thousands of people across the country. I would be
happy to demonstrate this to any "doubting thomas"  who drops in at our
office.
 
However, since that CD was released in June (and even before that) many
re-engineered i810 boards have appeared in the market that we had no
access to when we made that CD. Some of them are the infamous Kobian
boards, and others like it. Intel has specifically stated that such boards
are not supported under Linux (or were not until recently). This is
clearly displayed on their site for all to see.
 
Messages like Rajesh's reflect just what understanding of the market is
being displayed here. That particular issue of PCQ (June 2000) reached
some 70,000+ people, and we have had hundreds of messages from people
using i810 boards for whom the CD worked out of the box *PROVIDED THEY
FOLLOWED INSTRUCTIONS*, which included "install in text mode, *then*
configure X".
 
However, *those* people who did not read the instructions or who are
saddled with incompatible boards make it a point to post messages like
these, reflecting a clear "frog in the well" attitude - if it doesn't work
for them, it obviously cannot be working for anyone else and hence PCQ is
a liar and a cheat.
 
I am pretty hurt by this "looking a gift horse into the mouth" attitude
that people show towards PCQ and other publications who try their best to
popularize Linux in India. I remember the shameful behaviour of people on
LIH and LIG towards PC World when something went wrong with their CD, or
toward CHIP when they shipped a broken StarOffice.
 
With an immature attitude like this, it is hardly surprising that people
like me don't frequent LIH/LIG anymore.
 
Atul
 
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