Hi all,

I tried using update feature of mandrake and got it working from good old 
command line rather than a GTK UI that sucks bad.

Following are the steps

1)From K Menu->Configuration->Packagin, run Software manager which is UI. Define 
a new ftp source with following fields.

ftp://ftp1.sourceforge.net/pub/mirrors/mandrake/updates/8.1/RPMS
../base/hdlist.cz

2)I find that it appneded something similar to this at the end of 
/etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg
------------------------
Sourceforge\ mirror  {
   hdlist: hdlist.Sourceforge mirror.cz
   with_hdlist: ../base/hdlist.cz
   list: list.Sourceforge mirror
}
------------------------

3)Now run urpmi --auto-select. This will check with server for any updates and 
prompt for installing them. Say yes. It will download them and install them.

man urpmi for more details. You can allow to install automatically.

On week end, I upgraded mozilla/openssh/secure kernel 2.2.19-1 and some other stuff.

There are lot many things desired

1)I wish there had been an option to list available upgrades. Work around is you 
choose auto select and say no to first question. It exits with list of available 
upgraes on screen

2)When it asks confirmation for upgrading packages, it takes single yes for all 
of them. Of course I can say 'urpmi --auto-select mozilla' to check mozilla 
related upgrades. But given the fact that I don't know all the available 
upgrades before hand, I don't see it as an alternative.

3)I don't know how it verifies the signatures for packages. They are installed 
all right, but are they verified?

4)Given number of mandrake specific tools I don't know whether I can safely 
upgrade from one version of distro to another like this. When 8.2 comes out and 
it has say a new rpm all-in-one-server that was not there with 8.1, how it's 
going to upgrade.

5)The downloads of packages seem to be from wget though I didn't find wget 
reference in the perl script(May be some perl ftp module). Sadly there is no 
continuation of download if it breaks. Any perl hacker, can you look into the 
script and set that option right. Some idiot assumed that everybody has a 2TBPS 
teleportation link from StarTrek era.

Over all it works but debian folks can relax for time being. They still have the 
best package management system.

And for Gods sake, don't use any GUI utiltity for this. I loath GTK even more 
everytime I use that package installer.

  Shridhar








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