At 01:56 2002.01.27 +0800, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
>+++ Mac ADd [linux-india] <27/01/02 00:38 +0700>:
>> Considering what he got away with, Hitler also enjoyed a relatively long
>> success. ;)
>
>Uh, dont spoil a great argument by invoking Godwin ...
>
>        -srs (http://www.godwinslaw.com)

Godwin? That rings a bell. Le's see...

Oops, nope. I was thinking of Godot, not either "the founder of 
philosophical anarchism", William Godwin, 
        http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/godwin/, 
nor his namesake --
  Godwin's Law
  As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison 
  involving Nazis or Hitler approaches one.

Interesting though. I wonder if the "Corollary of Practicality" will hold
in this case, ie: 

  There is a tradition in many groups that, once this occurs, the thread 
  is over, and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever 
  argument was in progress. Godwin's Law thus practically guarantees the 
  existence of an upper bound on thread length in those groups.

In fact, this is way off-topic already so i don't see any harm in 
stretching it one post further for a less esoteric analogy, as i just wrote 
this to the (Red Hat) enigma-list:

>Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2002 02:04:37 +0700
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From: Mac ADd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: up2date problems
>
>At 18:06 2002.01.26 +0000, Rodolfo J. Paiz wrote:
>>At 1/27/2002 12:54 AM +0700, Mac ADd wrote:
>>>>Please note your current level of service (previously known as Red Hat
>>>>Network Software Manager) is now known as Red Hat Network Basic Service.
>>>>Annual subscriptions for this service are available for $60 per system.
>>>
>>>Inevitable and only good business sense for RedHat.
>>>
>>>But whenever my fave bands got so pop their shows were always sold out and
>>>they had to up their ticket prices, i almost autonomically started looking
>>>for the newer garage bands and warehouse bars.
>>
>>Do remember that you still have one system subscribed for free, which should be fine 
>if the system isn't too important so that you need up2date to get you the latest 
>updates *immediately*. You can always get them by hand from a mirror (subscribe to 
>the redhat-watch and redhat-announce lists too).
>>
>>If the system *is* important enough that it needs updates quickly, then your time 
>alone for tracking and getting updates is worth more than $5/month...
>
>Definitely. As i writ, "good business sense for RedHat". It's a service that adds 
>value and it directly addresses the excess demand for this RedHat product, the rhn 
>service, with a time-tested solution, a price increase for that service, which may 
>then be applied to increasing either RedHat's working capital or improving its 
>products (maybe even by upgrading the rhn infrastructure). 
>
>And if it came to a choice of which distro to recommend to a client whose bandwidth 
>and sysadmin costs were higher than the rhn "premium" services, in lieu of any 
>better, cheaper update services from another distro, Red Hat would be the obvious 
>choice. 
>
>Yet this still speaks nothing to the relative intangible values i or others may enjoy 
>from toying with either the fringe or bleeding edge. My personal preferences may well 
>lead me to value an alternative distro more than Red Hat simply for such intangibles 
>as, say, Slackware's propoganda and the character of it's user and developer 
>communities. 
>
>Clearly, the majority of users, especially enterprises, will be with Red Hat -- which 
>leaves us all happy as Larry, no?
>
>best,
>ADd

And again all the best,
ADd (who won't continue this on this list if you don't ;))



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