For the last two days I am reading with interest the debate on which OS is good. Linux, Windoz or Mad OS X.
In my view this is a Linux forum. We should strict ourselves with discussions on Linux, its merits and its propagation. We are not here to praise some commercial OS. We are living in a poor country. If an average person of India wants to purchase a Mad system or a Windoz systems with legal software, I am sure, he has to live with half stomach for a minimum two years. Why we are all using or trying to use Linux is because it is free. Dear friends, many persons are engaged in indegenising Linux to their country needs. The Japanese, the Taiwanese, the Germans even some Africans also indeginised Linux to their native tongue/script. In India only Tamil version of KDE is available. For other Indian languages even working groups were not formed. We boast of largest number of computer literates and computer programmers. It appears we Indians are running behind money that is why many commercial software were produced by the Indians but none paid attention to this poor man�s OS. When I joined this forum I thought the members may be working for indeginising the Linux. To my query I received only one posting that is also for Bengali script. Please think about the impact of computers if one can use it in his native language (matribhasha). Not many are educated in English in India, but many know their mother tongue. I hope members of this list will understand & agree with my views and try to do something in this direction rather wasting your energies for praising the commercial OSs. If I hurt anybody in the list with my views I am sorry for the same. D. VeNuGoPaL > > Well, Shridhar, it seems you particularly wish to get > nasty, fine, > > then, here goes... > > totally uncalled for IMHO > > > > > > >> There are a lot more things still missing in Linux, > > >> 1. Optimised performance across all machines. > > > All? Where is the list? > > > > All the machines which Linux "claims" to support. > > (in the desktop class) > > Be objective and the "Lot More" will turn out to be > "very little". A > lot of users use linux as a desktop today and are very > happy with the > performance they get. > > > > > > >> 2. Ease of use without taxing the system too much > (KDE is excellent, > > >> but its the biggest bloat I have ever come > across). > > >>From my last three installs on i810/128MB RAM(These > three are > > different > > > machines), KDE/MDK8.1 is faster than win98 though > not faster than > > 95. And > > > win98 > > > > Thats because you probably never got near a Macintosh > in your entire > > life. > > Try comparing it with the "real thing", and then come > back and talk > > about it. > > from what i have read mac's in the pre-FreeBSD-ripoff > period were as > prone as windblows machines to memory leaks. > > > > > > > Just to give you an eye opener, Macintosh gives > stunning performance > > even on a 8Mb machine and beat any other GUI system > out there hands > > down on usability. > granted i have never got a chance to see a mac in > action. speaking > (speculating) purely from a hardware point of view, i > have serious > doubts about the rendering of "stunning graphics" on 8 > mb machines in > real time. > > > > > > >> 3. Ease of install (I bet any of the distro makers > coming anywhere > > >> near winDOZE as far as ease of install goes, > leave aside the > > >> Macintosh, thats one place where it would take > them a lifetime to > > >> reach) > > > > > > I would say you are treading a dangerous territory. > After I start > > installing > > > Mandrake, within 50 minutes I have a ready > workstation with office > > and > > > dvelopment tools. Installtion of NT at same level > takes more than 2 > > hours. > > > > You are going off at a tangent Shridhar. > > We are talking Desktop Linux, never thought NT > figured in the desktop > > variety. > it does if you consider W2K which is easily one of the > better products > from the M$ stable. How about replacing win nt with win > me ?? > Shridhars argument does hold then. > > > > > > > And, what you don't seem to understand (just like > Atul) is that there > > is a difference between you and a general computer > user (leave aside a > > newbie). > > I wonder what a newbie would think when he is > presented with the > > screen where he is asked to partition his drive, he > would just run > > away from it. > duh, give mandrake a raw hdd and it will choose your > partitions if you > want it to. still not seen that in windblows, don't > know about the > mac. > > > > > > > > > IMO Windows truely bears to it's name of NT aka > neandethel > > technology as far > > > as installing software goes.. > > > > Dunno why, but it seems like you had an affair with > NT and it ditched > > you. > i wouldn't call it an affair, but yes some of us have > used windblows > before seeing the light. > > > > > > > > > >> 4. A next generation UI, look at all those Window > Managers, they are > > >> all wannabes of some old UI paradigm. > > > Great. Something like multiple desktops and IO > slaves? Multiple > > associations > > > and different associations for editing and viewing > documents? > > > But I don't remember seeing any of these on any > version of windows? > > I just > > > saw them in KDE.. > > > > You miss the point again, does any Linux desktop > system come anywhere > > close to winDOZE as far as usability goes? > > Again, reminding you that the issue at hand is the > "desktop", here, a > > user doesn't give a damn about IO slaves, et all, > what matters to him > > is usability. > My office pc, runs RH 7.1, and i use enlightenment as a > window > manager. And it's da best !! couldn't get better than > this. > *everything* is just a mouse click away. took me about > half an hour to > figure out how to get that done, but then again i am a > newbie, any > body else would find it even easier if only they tried. > At home i use > MDK 8.1, and no surprises run enlightenment there to. I > tweak my > desktop(s) background, browse, email, chat (on msn), > listen to mp3's, > watch TV, movies etc all in linux. I do the occaisional > coding (gvim, > gawk, TCL, Verilog all available in linux), word > processing > (openoffice) if i still feel like working on the > weekend. So how much > more usable can my linux system get ??? > > > > > > > Linux had been trying to give usability since the > days of FVWM2 (I > > guess), and that was long before Mr. Steve Jobs and > company came along > > (in 2001) and stunned the world with Mac OS X, which > incidentally is > > again Unix _based_ > > What was the Linux community doing with all the lead > time they had? > > > > > Who's the leader? > > > > Now based on the above points, "you" tell us who is > the leader. > > Just to make your life easy, here are the options: > > () Linux, () winDOZE, () Mac OS, () Mac OS X > whatever works for you i suppose. here on the ilug-goa > list we had an > idiot who posted something like 'try win XP and you'll > forget about > linux', there is simply no accounting for taste. > > my 2 paise worth anyway, > mario > _______________________________________________ linux-india-help mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linux-india-help
