>>"Arun" == Arun Sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 Arun> On Thu, Feb 24, 2000 at 03:23:56PM +0530, Anand Raman wrote:
 Arun> Anand,

 >> Hi guys
 >> 
 >> I had been to Richard Stallmans lecture yesterday here at IISc
 >> Bangalore (along with many others who turned up). Incase u dont know
 >> Richard Stallman is the founder of the GNU movement which is creating
 >> waves. The guy is a genious. 

 Arun> No doubt, Richard Stallman is a genius. Even Gandhi was a
 Arun> genius. But not everything they do needs to be right.

        Of course not (I find richard to be wuite lax in formal dress
 sense). But his stance on freedom of software is often quite up to
 snuff.

        However, since you don't yourself quite get the free software
 movement (by your own admission), I have no problem understanding
 your disquite with open software principles.

 Arun> Lately, his statements and actions have deeply divided the open source
 Arun> community into 

        Lately? Richard has said the same thisng, ever since he
 invented teh free software movement.

 Arun> (a) People who just believe that open source is a good _methodology_ with
 Arun>     no political overtones.
 Arun> (b) People who emphasize "freedom" over everything else - i.e. Richard 
 Arun>     Stallman (RMS for short).

        Rubish. Some of us are into it for other reasons than money
 (which you have a problem with, but that's all right). We are also in
 it for more than just ego: (some BSD licence proponents care for
 nothing more than that, un=fortunately); we are in it to build a
 community, and RMS and GPL offer more protection than other
 licences. 

 Arun> His use of the word "freedom" also has been controversial - as

        Not really. Most people who are not out to make money have
 understood why fee software is called that.

        People whose major moticvation is financial have a problem
 with that.

 Arun> in I don't have the "freedom" to access your bank account. Note
 Arun> that RMS also advocates having no passwords - so that machines
 Arun> can be accessed "freely". Some people see his philosophy as
 Arun> being communist.

        Communism, as in what karl Marx said, was a great system --
 unfortunately, unlike freeee software, the implementation never came
 close to the ideal

 Arun> I do not wish to drag this 1000 strong list into a discussion
 Arun> here. This has already been done on linux-india-general. Please
 Arun> refer to the archives.

        You should not have posted here, then. I shall take up further
 discussions on the -general or -advocay lists, too.

 Arun> So the message to the next Linux fan/advocate who bumps into
 Arun> the GNU web page or a RMS lecture - yes, the messages are
 Arun> powerful, they make sense when seen from some angles.

        The view of free software proponets.

 Arun> But they are also seen as being very controversial and hotly
 Arun> debated and inappropriate for a large volume tech help mailing
 Arun> list like this one.

        Yes, from people who want to milk money out of every bit of
 code they right (did you not admit you only contribute to fe3e
 software because you are paid to do it?).

        I can see why the GPL is disturbing to you.

 Arun> Followups should go to -general.

        or -advocacy.


        manoj
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