Hi Jarkko,
Thank you for the detailed feedback.

On Sun, Oct 25, 2026 at 11:59:23PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2026 at 01:48:58AM +0530, Arun Menon wrote:
> > From: Arun Menon <[email protected]>
> > 
> > With the introduction of support for Post Quantum Cryptography
> > algorithms in TPM, the commands and responses will grow in size.
> > Some TPMs have a physical hardware memory window (MMIO) that is
> > smaller than the commands we need to send.
> 
> That is too loose scope, and its truth value will be degrading as time
> moves forward.
> 
> Here's what I think about the topic and would look up:
> 
> 1. TCG has defined this in a spec. I would point out the spec and
>    section(s), and optionally also date when it was published (like
>    "09/2025" or "Spring of 2024", nothing more granular than this).

Sure, I will add the spec detail, citing the TPM PC Client PTP (Platform
TPM Profile) with section number and date.

> 2. PQC will be probably a thing across the whole chip industry.
>    This is why we need to support it not because of some random
>    buffer shenanigans, right?
> 3. "Some TPMs" is inaccurate statement in a wrong way. I would be
>    inaccurate too but how I would simplify the topic  would come
>    from an utilitirian angle.

yes, I understand. Any CRB TPM that gets the updated PQC-sized payloads
will hit the same MMIO-window limit.

> 
>    Regardless what future holds i.e., I would represent the set
>    of PQC enabled TPMs and the set of chunking enabled TPMs as they
>    were the same set. This type of self-deception is what engineering
>    really is all about, overall ;-)

yes, its a PQC transition generally. I will mention that.

> 
> Those are my verbose remarks or how I model this situation, which
> would synthesize into maybe 2-4 not that long sentences.
> 
> > Therefore this commit
> > implements the core logic of sending/receiving data in chunks.
> 
> I would remove this sentence because it has no utilitirian use and
> does not make anyone smarter, other than you get the feeling that
> "I should probably pretend that I know what the chunks are".

yes, will remove this line.

> 
> Add a short paragrap tell us what the heck they are reference to
> section is great but putting the concept in nutshell without having
> to immediately peak at it would be great.
> 
> > 
> > Instead of sending the whole command at once, the driver now sends it in
> > small chunks. After each chunk, it signals the TPM using a nextChunk
> 
> This is a bit loose form of expression and I'm not fan of qualitative
> size definitions.
> 
> Example: "Send the command split into chunks."
> 
> That's really all information content of the first sentence.
> 
> > signal, and waits for the TPM to consume the data. Once the final piece
> > is delivered, the driver signals the TPM to begin execution by toggling
> > the start invoke bit. We use the same logic in reverse to read large
> > responses from the TPM.
> 
> This is abstracting and encapsulating the meat of the code change.
> 
> Remarks:
> 
> - The list of the added constants.
yes, will add them
> - Speak how the CRB registers are used.
yes.
> - Stuff is heavily moved around but I don't see anything that would
>   help me to understand the reorg part. This is important because
>   that gives better map to navigate and check if this patch
>   could be split (I don't know yet).

I will split the 6th patch in to 2. The preparation patch will put the
existing crb_send()/crb_recv() into
tpm_crb_send_no_chunks()/tpm_crb_recv_no_chunks().

Also, I will forward declare tpm_crb_start() (required by 
tpm_crb_recv_chunks()) so that the diff is clean.

> - Go through each location where use the word "signal". It's used
>   like a solution encapsulator.

I will explain the use of registers briefly. The registers were
introduced in a former patch.

> 
> When asked this much details and stuff I personally can recommend
> more imperative writing style (see the examples). It has friction
> because you can move sentence forward only when you get.
> 
> > 
> > This allows the driver to handle large payloads even when the hardware
> > interface has limited memory. This kernel-side support corresponds to
> > the backend implementation in QEMU [1]. QEMU reassembles the chunks
> > before passing them to the TPM emulator.
> > 
> > [1] 
> > https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/[email protected]/
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Arun Menon <[email protected]>
> > ---
> >  drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c | 215 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--------
> >  1 file changed, 173 insertions(+), 42 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > index 31f530744e90..8b2aaa109fc4 100644
> > --- a/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > +++ b/drivers/char/tpm/tpm_crb.c
> > @@ -105,11 +105,13 @@ struct crb_priv {
> >     u8 __iomem *cmd;
> >     u8 __iomem *rsp;
> >     u32 cmd_size;
> > +   u32 rsp_size;
> >     u32 smc_func_id;
> >     u32 __iomem *pluton_start_addr;
> >     u32 __iomem *pluton_reply_addr;
> >     u8 ffa_flags;
> >     u8 ffa_attributes;
> > +   u32 intf_id;
> >  };
> >  
> >  struct tpm2_crb_smc {
> > @@ -369,38 +371,6 @@ static u8 crb_status(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >     return sts;
> >  }
> >  
> > -static int crb_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count)
> > -{
> > -   struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > -   unsigned int expected;
> > -
> > -   /* A sanity check that the upper layer wants to get at least the header
> > -    * as that is the minimum size for any TPM response.
> > -    */
> > -   if (count < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> > -           return -EIO;
> > -
> > -   /* If this bit is set, according to the spec, the TPM is in
> > -    * unrecoverable condition.
> > -    */
> > -   if (ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_sts) & CRB_CTRL_STS_ERROR)
> > -           return -EIO;
> > -
> > -   /* Read the first 8 bytes in order to get the length of the response.
> > -    * We read exactly a quad word in order to make sure that the remaining
> > -    * reads will be aligned.
> > -    */
> > -   memcpy_fromio(buf, priv->rsp, 8);
> > -
> > -   expected = be32_to_cpup((__be32 *)&buf[2]);
> > -   if (expected > count || expected < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> > -           return -EIO;
> > -
> > -   memcpy_fromio(&buf[8], &priv->rsp[8], expected - 8);
> > -
> > -   return expected;
> > -}
> > -
> >  static int crb_do_acpi_start(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> >  {
> >     union acpi_object *obj;
> > @@ -472,17 +442,71 @@ static int tpm_crb_start(struct tpm_chip *chip, u32 
> > start_cmd)
> >     return rc;
> >  }
> >  
> > +static int tpm_crb_send_no_chunks(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t 
> > len)
> > +{
> > +   struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > +   int rc;
> > +
> > +   memcpy_toio(priv->cmd, buf, len);
> > +
> > +   /* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
> > +   wmb();
> > +
> > +   rc = tpm_crb_start(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
> > +   if (rc)
> > +           return rc;
> > +
> > +   return crb_try_pluton_doorbell(priv, false);
> > +}
> > +
> > +static int tpm_crb_send_chunks(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t len)
> > +{
> > +   struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > +   size_t offset = 0;
> > +   size_t chunk_size;
> > +   int rc;
> > +
> > +   while (offset < len) {
> > +           chunk_size = min_t(size_t, len - offset, priv->cmd_size);
> > +
> > +           if (chunk_size == 0)
> > +                   break;
> > +
> > +           memcpy_toio(priv->cmd, buf + offset, chunk_size);
> > +           offset += chunk_size;
> > +
> > +           /* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
> > +           wmb();
> > +           if (offset < len) {
> > +                   rc = tpm_crb_start(chip, CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK);
> > +                   if (rc)
> > +                           return rc;
> > +                   if (!crb_wait_for_reg_32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_start,
> > +                                                                    
> > CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK, 0,
> > +                                                                    
> > TPM2_TIMEOUT_C)) {
> 
> I'd split these calls into two lines:
> 
>       expired = !crb_wait_for_reg_32( ... );
>       if (expired) {
> 
> 
> 

yes will do it.

> > +                           dev_err(&chip->dev,
> > +                                           "Timeout waiting for backend to 
> > consume chunk\n");
> > +                           return -ETIME;
> > +                   }
> > +           } else {
> > +                   rc = tpm_crb_start(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
> > +                   if (rc)
> > +                           return rc;
> > +           }
> > +   }
> > +
> > +   return crb_try_pluton_doorbell(priv, false);
> > +}
> >  static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t bufsiz, size_t 
> > len)
> >  {
> >     struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > -   int rc = 0;
> >  
> >     /* Zero the cancel register so that the next command will not get
> >      * canceled.
> >      */
> >     iowrite32(0, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_cancel);
> >  
> > -   if (len > priv->cmd_size) {
> > +   if (len > priv->cmd_size && !(priv->intf_id & CRB_INTF_CAP_CRB_CHUNK)) {
> >             dev_err(&chip->dev, "invalid command count value %zd %d\n",
> >                     len, priv->cmd_size);
> >             return -E2BIG;
> > @@ -492,16 +516,115 @@ static int crb_send(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, 
> > size_t bufsiz, size_t len)
> >     if (priv->sm == ACPI_TPM2_COMMAND_BUFFER_WITH_PLUTON)
> >             __crb_cmd_ready(&chip->dev, priv, chip->locality);
> >  
> > -   memcpy_toio(priv->cmd, buf, len);
> > +   if (len <= priv->cmd_size)
> > +           return tpm_crb_send_no_chunks(chip, buf, len);
> >  
> > -   /* Make sure that cmd is populated before issuing start. */
> > -   wmb();
> > +   return tpm_crb_send_chunks(chip, buf, len);
> > +}
> >  
> > -   rc = tpm_crb_start(chip, CRB_START_INVOKE);
> > -   if (rc)
> > -           return rc;
> > +static int tpm_crb_recv_no_chunks(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t 
> > count)
> > +{
> > +   struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > +   unsigned int expected;
> >  
> > -   return crb_try_pluton_doorbell(priv, false);
> > +   /* Read the first 8 bytes in order to get the length of the response.
> > +    * We read exactly a quad word in order to make sure that the remaining
> > +    * reads will be aligned.
> > +    */
> 
> When moving code not heavy mods should be done but we can fix this
> cosmetic glitch from the block comments at least.
> 
> > +   memcpy_fromio(buf, priv->rsp, 8);
> > +
> > +   expected = be32_to_cpup((__be32 *)&buf[2]);
> > +   if (expected > count || expected < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> > +           return -EIO;
> > +
> > +   memcpy_fromio(&buf[8], &priv->rsp[8], expected - 8);
> > +
> > +   return expected;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static int tpm_crb_recv_chunks(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t 
> > count,
> > +                                                      unsigned int 
> > expected)
> > +{
> > +   struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > +   size_t offset = 0;
> > +   size_t chunk_size;
> > +   size_t first_read;
> > +   int rc;
> > +
> > +   if (expected > count)
> > +           return -EIO;
> > +   /*
> > +    * Set chunk_size by comparing the size of the buffer that the upper
> > +    * layer has allocated (count) to the hardware tpm limit 
> > (priv->rsp_size).
> > +    * This is to prevent buffer overflow while writing to buf.
> > +    */
> > +   chunk_size = min_t(size_t, count, priv->rsp_size);
> > +   if (chunk_size < 8)
> > +           return -EIO;
> > +
> > +   memcpy_fromio(buf, priv->rsp, 8);
> > +
> > +   /*
> > +    * Compare the actual size of the response we found in
> > +    * the header to the chunk size
> > +    */
> > +   first_read = min_t(size_t, expected, chunk_size);
> > +
> > +   memcpy_fromio(&buf[8], &priv->rsp[8], first_read - 8);
> > +   offset = first_read;
> > +
> > +   while (offset < expected) {
> > +           rc = tpm_crb_start(chip, CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK);
> > +           if (rc)
> > +                   return rc;
> > +
> > +           if (!crb_wait_for_reg_32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_start,
> > +                                                            
> > CRB_START_NEXT_CHUNK, 0,
> > +                                                            
> > TPM2_TIMEOUT_C)) {
> > +                   dev_err(&chip->dev, "Timeout waiting for backend 
> > response\n");
> > +                   return -ETIME;
> > +           }
> > +
> > +           chunk_size = min_t(size_t, expected - offset, priv->rsp_size);
> > +           memcpy_fromio(buf + offset, priv->rsp, chunk_size);
> > +           offset += chunk_size;
> > +   }
> > +
> > +   return expected;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static int crb_recv(struct tpm_chip *chip, u8 *buf, size_t count)
> > +{
> > +   struct crb_priv *priv = dev_get_drvdata(&chip->dev);
> > +   unsigned int expected;
> > +
> > +   /* A sanity check that the upper layer wants to get at least the header
> > +    * as that is the minimum size for any TPM response.
> > +    */
> > +   if (count < TPM_HEADER_SIZE)
> > +           return -EIO;
> > +
> > +   /* If this bit is set, according to the spec, the TPM is in
> > +    * unrecoverable condition.
> > +    */
> > +   if (ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_sts) & CRB_CTRL_STS_ERROR)
> > +           return -EIO;
> > +
> > +   /*
> > +    * Peek at the first 8 bytes to determine the response size
> > +    */
> > +   expected = be32_to_cpup((__be32 *)&priv->rsp[2]);
> > +
> > +   if (expected <= priv->rsp_size)
> > +           return tpm_crb_recv_no_chunks(chip, buf, count);
> > +
> > +   if (!(priv->intf_id & CRB_INTF_CAP_CRB_CHUNK)) {
> > +           dev_err(&chip->dev,
> > +                       "Response larger than MMIO and chunking not 
> > supported\n");
> > +           return -EIO;
> > +   }
> > +
> > +   return tpm_crb_recv_chunks(chip, buf, count, expected);
> >  }
> >  
> >  static void crb_cancel(struct tpm_chip *chip)
> > @@ -728,6 +851,12 @@ static int crb_map_io(struct device *dev, struct 
> > crb_priv *priv,
> >             goto out;
> >     }
> >  
> > +   if (priv->regs_h)
> > +           priv->intf_id = ioread32((u32 __iomem *)&priv->regs_h->intf_id);
> > +
> > +   if (priv->intf_id & CRB_INTF_CAP_CRB_CHUNK)
> > +           dev_info(dev, "CRB Chunking is supported by backend\n");
> > +
> >     memcpy_fromio(&__rsp_pa, &priv->regs_t->ctrl_rsp_pa, 8);
> >     rsp_pa = le64_to_cpu(__rsp_pa);
> >     rsp_size = ioread32(&priv->regs_t->ctrl_rsp_size);
> > @@ -765,8 +894,10 @@ static int crb_map_io(struct device *dev, struct 
> > crb_priv *priv,
> >     priv->rsp = priv->cmd;
> >  
> >  out:
> > -   if (!ret)
> > +   if (!ret) {
> >             priv->cmd_size = cmd_size;
> > +           priv->rsp_size = rsp_size;
> > +   }
> >  
> >     __crb_go_idle(dev, priv, 0);
> >  
> > -- 
> > 2.54.0
> > 
> 
> Let's take this easy as it can land earliest v7.5. It would be hard
> to miss that deadline so polishing all the details is the best way
> to go.

I agree. Thanks again.

> 
> Br, Jarkko
> 

Regards,
Arun Menon


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