----- On Apr 7, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Peter Zijlstra pet...@infradead.org wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 02:03:53PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
>> > struct tlabi {
>> >    union {
>> >            __u8[64] __foo;
>> >            struct {
>> >                    /* fields go here */
>> >            };
>> >    };
>> > } __aligned__(64);
>> 
>> That's not really “fixed size” as far as an ABI is concerned, due to the
>> possibility of future extensions.
> 
> sizeof(struct tlabi) is always the same, right? How is that not fixed?
> 
>> > People objected against the fixed size scheme, but it being possible to
>> > get a fixed TCB offset and reduce indirections is a big win IMO.
>> 
>> It's a difficult trade-off.  It's not an indirection as such, it's avoid
>> loading the dynamic TLS offset.
> 
> What we _want_ is being able to use %[gf]s:offset and have it work (I
> forever forget which segment register userspace TLS uses).
> 
>> Let me repeat that the ELF TLS GNU ABI has very limited support for
>> static offsets at present, and it is difficult to make them available
>> more widely without code generation at run time (in the form of text
>> relocations, but still).
> 
> Do you have a pointer to something I can read? Because I'm clearly not
> understanding the full issue here.

For what is is worth, here are a couple of objdump snippet of my
test program without and with -fPIC:

* Compiled with -O2, *without* -fPIC, x86-64:

__thread __attribute__((weak)) volatile struct thread_local_abi 
__thread_local_abi;

static
int32_t read_cpu_id(void)
{
        if (unlikely(!(__thread_local_abi.features & TLABI_FEATURE_CPU_ID)))
  40064e:       64 8b 04 25 c0 ff ff    mov    %fs:0xffffffffffffffc0,%eax
  400655:       ff 
  400656:       a8 01                   test   $0x1,%al
  400658:       74 71                   je     4006cb <main+0xab>
                return sched_getcpu();
        return __thread_local_abi.cpu_id;
  40065a:       64 8b 14 25 c4 ff ff    mov    %fs:0xffffffffffffffc4,%edx
  400661:       ff 
}


* Compiled with -O2, with -fPIC, x86_64:

__thread __attribute__((weak)) volatile struct thread_local_abi 
__thread_local_abi;


  4006de:       64 48 8b 04 25 00 00    mov    %fs:0x0,%rax
  4006e5:       00 00 

static
int32_t read_cpu_id(void)
{
        if (unlikely(!(__thread_local_abi.features & TLABI_FEATURE_CPU_ID)))
  4006e7:       48 8d 80 c0 ff ff ff    lea    -0x40(%rax),%rax
  4006ee:       8b 10                   mov    (%rax),%edx
  4006f0:       83 e2 01                and    $0x1,%edx
  4006f3:       0f 84 80 00 00 00       je     400779 <main+0xc9>
                return sched_getcpu();
        return __thread_local_abi.cpu_id;
  4006f9:       8b 50 04                mov    0x4(%rax),%edx
}

So with -fPIC (libraries), TLS adds an extra indirection. However,
it just needs to load the base address once, and can then access
both "features" and "cpu_id" fields as offsets from that base.

For executables compiled without -fPIC, there is no indirection.
This justifies the following paragraph in the proposed man page:

           The symbol __thread_local_abi is recommended  to  be  used  across
           libraries  and applications wishing to register a the thread-local
           ABI structure for tlabi_nr 0. The attribute "weak" is  recommended
           when  declaring  this  variable  in  libraries.   Applications can
           choose to define their own version of this symbol without the weak
           attribute as a performance improvement.

Thoughts ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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