On Thu, Feb 15, 2007 at 09:42:32AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> We know one interface: the current aio_read() one. Nobody really _likes_ 
[...]

> Others? We don't know yet. And exposing complex interfaces that may not be 
> the right ones is much *worse* than exposing simple interfaces (that 
> _also_ may not be the right ones, of course - but simple and 

>From humble userland, here's two things I'd hope to be able to do, although
I admit my needs are rather specialist.

1) batch, and wait for, with proper error reporting:
        socket();
        [ setsockopt(); ]
        bind();
        connect();
        gettimeofday();  // doesn't *always* happen
        send();
        recv();
        gettimeofday(); // doesn't *always* happen

        I go through this sequence for each outgoing powerdns UDP query
        because I need a new random source port for each query, and I
        connect because I care about errrors. Linux does not give me random
        source ports for UDP sockets.

        When async, I can probably just drop the setsockopt (for
        nonblocking). I already batch the gettimeofday to 'once per epoll
        return', but quite often this is once per packet.

2)      On the client facing side (port 53), I'd very much hope for a way to
        do 'recvv' on datagram sockets, so I can retrieve a whole bunch of
        UDP datagrams with only one kernel transition.

        This would mean that I batch up either 10 calls to recv(), or one
        'atom' of 10 recv's.

Both 1 and 2 are currently limiting factors when I enter the 100kqps domain
of name serving. This doesn't mean the rest of my code is as tight as it
could be, but I spend a significant portion of time in the kernel even at
moderate (10kqps effective) loads, even though I already use epoll. A busy
PowerDNS recursor typically spends 25% to 50% of its time on 'sy' load.

This might be due to my use of get/set/swap/makecontext though.

        Bert

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