Hi,

On Thursday, 31 May 2007 00:24, Nigel Cunningham wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 23:11 +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Wednesday, 30 May 2007 22:44, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > On Wednesday, 30 May 2007 17:37, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > > Hi!
> > > > 
> > > > > +Suspend notifiers
> > > > > +     (C) 2007 Rafael J. Wysocki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, GPL
> > > > > +
> > > > > +There are some operations that device drivers may want to carry out 
> > > > > in their
> > > > > +.suspend() routines, but shouldn't, because they can cause the 
> > > > > hibernation or
> > > > > +suspend to fail. For example, a driver may want to allocate a 
> > > > > substantial amount
> > > > > +of memory (like 50 MB) in .suspend(), but that shouldn't be done 
> > > > > after the
> > > > > +swsusp's memory shrinker has run.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +Also, there may be some operations, that subsystems want to carry 
> > > > > out before a
> > > > > +hibernation/suspend or after a restore/resume, requiring the system 
> > > > > to be fully
> > > > > +functional, so the drivers' .suspend() and .resume() routines are 
> > > > > not suitable
> > > > > +for this purpose.  For example, device drivers may want to upload 
> > > > > firmware to
> > > > > +their devices after a restore from a hibernation image, but they 
> > > > > cannot do it by
> > > > > +calling request_firmware() from their .resume() routines (user land 
> > > > > processes
> > > > > +are frozen at this point).  The solution may be to load the firmware 
> > > > > into
> > > > > +memory before processes are frozen and upload it from there in the 
> > > > > .resume()
> > > > > +routine.  Of course, a hibernation notifier may be used for this 
> > > > > purpose.
> > > > > +
> > > > > +The subsystems that have such needs can register suspend notifiers 
> > > > > that will be
> > > > > +called upon the following events by the suspend core:
> > > > > +
> > > > > +PM_PRE_FREEZE                The system is going to hibernate or 
> > > > > suspend, tasks will
> > > > > +                     be frozen immediately
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm, looks like bad idea if we are going to remove freezer from
> > > > suspend...?
> > > 
> > > We need PM_PRE_FREEZE anyway and it's a different question whether or not
> > > it'll be used for suspend (STR) too.
> > > 
> > > The timing is not the best one, but so far the freezer is in the suspend 
> > > code
> > > path and I need to take this into account.
> > >  
> > > > > +PM_POST_THAW         Tasks have just been thawed after a resume or 
> > > > > restore
> > > > > +                     from a hibernation image
> > > > > +
> > > > > +PM_HIBERNATION_PREPARE       The system is preparing for 
> > > > > hibernation.  Tasks have
> > > > > +                     been frozen, memory is going to be freed and 
> > > > > devices
> > > > > +                     are going to be suspended.
> > > > 
> > > > Is not PRE_FREEZE enough? We can allocate memory for drivers there,
> > > > too...
> > > 
> > > Well, there is a reason for not doing this.  Namely, if the memory if 
> > > freed on
> > > PM_POST_HIBERNATION after the image has been created, we can use it for 
> > > saving
> > > the image (and speed up the saving).
> > > 
> > > Besides, if the freezer is dropped from the suspend code, the notifiers 
> > > will be
> > > useful to it anyway IMO, and PRE_FREEZE won't make sense in that case.
> > > 
> > > I think the rule should be: If you need to do something _before_ tasks are
> > > frozen, do it in PM_PRE_FREEZE, but if you can do that after the tasks 
> > > have
> > > been frozen, do it on PM_HIBERNATION_PREPARE (or PM_SUSPEND_PREPARE in the
> > > suspend case).
> > 
> > OTOH, having considered it for a while, I think that for now I can add just
> > PM_PRE_FREEZE and PM_POST_THAW, as I don't have any user for the other ones.
> > The other events may be added in the future if need be (along with some 
> > users).
> > 
> > I'll post revised patches in a new thread.
> 
> I haven't been giving this much attention, so forgive me if I'm about to
> ask a silly question... which notifiers would you see the avenrun
> saving/restoring using?

I'm not sure what you mean.  Could you please clarify?

Greetings,
Rafael
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