On Tue, Feb 19, 2019 at 11:35:12AM +0100, Ard Biesheuvel wrote: > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 20:45, Ard Biesheuvel <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 20:43, Nick Desaulniers <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:28 AM Ard Biesheuvel > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 at 20:25, Nick Desaulniers > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 11:20 AM Ard Biesheuvel > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Provided that we stop sending Clang enablement patches to -stable: > > > > > > > > > > What does that mean? We're trying to provide clang support back to > > > > > 4.4 LTS branches. (so 4.4, 4.9, 4.14, 4.19). > > > > > > > > I understand that is what you are attempting, but that does not mean > > > > it /belongs/ in -stable. > > > > > > > > There are rules for stable, and people that track stable kernels (such > > > > as the distros) should be able to rely on us to only backport bug > > > > fixes, not linker script changes and other updates that fix issues > > > > that did not exist when those kernels were released. > > > > > > > > It is unclear to me how these clang changes benefit those users. > > > > > > If you're referring to > > > https://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg278381.html, that's fair (I > > > think those were helpful for LLD support on arm64). > > > > > > Why didn't you speak up then? Why is this coming up now? > > > > That is just one example, and I failed to realise it at the time. > > > > I think the Clang/LLVM work you are doing is very important, but I > > simply don't think any of it belongs in -stable kernels. > > OK, to clarify my position: > > I have no problem whatsoever with taking this patch into v5.x, so > > Acked-by: Ard Biesheuvel <[email protected]> > > but going forward, I will push back on -stable backports for > Clang/LLVM specific changes, since they are obviously in violation of > the stable kernel rules.
Getting older kernels to build/run properly on newer compilers is just a part of life for the stable trees. If you note, we have done a lot of gcc7, then gcc8, and clang patches backported over the years in order to make it possible for people (like me and my testing infrastructure at the least) to keep building these old kernels on newer systems. So while it's not part of the "documented" rules, I do take this type of change, as it does help out a huge population of users and testers. thanks, greg k-h
