On 3/19/19 1:59 PM, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
> On 3/19/19 1:38 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:04 AM Nitesh Narayan Lal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On 3/19/19 9:33 AM, David Hildenbrand wrote:
>>>> On 18.03.19 16:57, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
>>>>> On 3/14/19 12:58 PM, Alexander Duyck wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 9:43 AM Nitesh Narayan Lal <[email protected]> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 3/6/19 1:12 PM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 01:07:50PM -0500, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 3/6/19 11:09 AM, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Mar 06, 2019 at 10:50:42AM -0500, Nitesh Narayan Lal wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The following patch-set proposes an efficient mechanism for handing 
>>>>>>>>>>> freed memory between the guest and the host. It enables the guests 
>>>>>>>>>>> with no page cache to rapidly free and reclaims memory to and from 
>>>>>>>>>>> the host respectively.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Benefit:
>>>>>>>>>>> With this patch-series, in our test-case, executed on a single 
>>>>>>>>>>> system and single NUMA node with 15GB memory, we were able to 
>>>>>>>>>>> successfully launch 5 guests(each with 5 GB memory) when page 
>>>>>>>>>>> hinting was enabled and 3 without it. (Detailed explanation of the 
>>>>>>>>>>> test procedure is provided at the bottom under Test - 1).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Changelog in v9:
>>>>>>>>>>>    * Guest free page hinting hook is now invoked after a page has 
>>>>>>>>>>> been merged in the buddy.
>>>>>>>>>>>         * Free pages only with order 
>>>>>>>>>>> FREE_PAGE_HINTING_MIN_ORDER(currently defined as MAX_ORDER - 1) are 
>>>>>>>>>>> captured.
>>>>>>>>>>>    * Removed kthread which was earlier used to perform the 
>>>>>>>>>>> scanning, isolation & reporting of free pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>    * Pages, captured in the per cpu array are sorted based on the 
>>>>>>>>>>> zone numbers. This is to avoid redundancy of acquiring zone locks.
>>>>>>>>>>>         * Dynamically allocated space is used to hold the isolated 
>>>>>>>>>>> guest free pages.
>>>>>>>>>>>         * All the pages are reported asynchronously to the host via 
>>>>>>>>>>> virtio driver.
>>>>>>>>>>>         * Pages are returned back to the guest buddy free list only 
>>>>>>>>>>> when the host response is received.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pending items:
>>>>>>>>>>>         * Make sure that the guest free page hinting's current 
>>>>>>>>>>> implementation doesn't break hugepages or device assigned guests.
>>>>>>>>>>>    * Follow up on VIRTIO_BALLOON_F_PAGE_POISON's device side 
>>>>>>>>>>> support. (It is currently missing)
>>>>>>>>>>>         * Compare reporting free pages via vring with vhost.
>>>>>>>>>>>         * Decide between MADV_DONTNEED and MADV_FREE.
>>>>>>>>>>>    * Analyze overall performance impact due to guest free page 
>>>>>>>>>>> hinting.
>>>>>>>>>>>    * Come up with proper/traceable error-message/logs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tests:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Use-case - Number of guests we can launch
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    NUMA Nodes = 1 with 15 GB memory
>>>>>>>>>>>    Guest Memory = 5 GB
>>>>>>>>>>>    Number of cores in guest = 1
>>>>>>>>>>>    Workload = test allocation program allocates 4GB memory, touches 
>>>>>>>>>>> it via memset and exits.
>>>>>>>>>>>    Procedure =
>>>>>>>>>>>    The first guest is launched and once its console is up, the test 
>>>>>>>>>>> allocation program is executed with 4 GB memory request (Due to 
>>>>>>>>>>> this the guest occupies almost 4-5 GB of memory in the host in a 
>>>>>>>>>>> system without page hinting). Once this program exits at that time 
>>>>>>>>>>> another guest is launched in the host and the same process is 
>>>>>>>>>>> followed. We continue launching the guests until a guest gets 
>>>>>>>>>>> killed due to low memory condition in the host.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    Results:
>>>>>>>>>>>    Without hinting = 3
>>>>>>>>>>>    With hinting = 5
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Hackbench
>>>>>>>>>>>    Guest Memory = 5 GB
>>>>>>>>>>>    Number of cores = 4
>>>>>>>>>>>    Number of tasks         Time with Hinting       Time without 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hinting
>>>>>>>>>>>    4000                    19.540                  17.818
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How about memhog btw?
>>>>>>>>>> Alex reported:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>     My testing up till now has consisted of setting up 4 8GB VMs on 
>>>>>>>>>> a system
>>>>>>>>>>     with 32GB of memory and 4GB of swap. To stress the memory on the 
>>>>>>>>>> system I
>>>>>>>>>>     would run "memhog 8G" sequentially on each of the guests and 
>>>>>>>>>> observe how
>>>>>>>>>>     long it took to complete the run. The observed behavior is that 
>>>>>>>>>> on the
>>>>>>>>>>     systems with these patches applied in both the guest and on the 
>>>>>>>>>> host I was
>>>>>>>>>>     able to complete the test with a time of 5 to 7 seconds per 
>>>>>>>>>> guest. On a
>>>>>>>>>>     system without these patches the time ranged from 7 to 49 
>>>>>>>>>> seconds per
>>>>>>>>>>     guest. I am assuming the variability is due to time being spent 
>>>>>>>>>> writing
>>>>>>>>>>     pages out to disk in order to free up space for the guest.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Here are the results:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Procedure: 3 Guests of size 5GB is launched on a single NUMA node with
>>>>>>>>> total memory of 15GB and no swap. In each of the guest, memhog is run
>>>>>>>>> with 5GB. Post-execution of memhog, Host memory usage is monitored by
>>>>>>>>> using Free command.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Without Hinting:
>>>>>>>>>                  Time of execution    Host used memory
>>>>>>>>> Guest 1:        45 seconds            5.4 GB
>>>>>>>>> Guest 2:        45 seconds            10 GB
>>>>>>>>> Guest 3:        1  minute               15 GB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With Hinting:
>>>>>>>>>                 Time of execution     Host used memory
>>>>>>>>> Guest 1:        49 seconds            2.4 GB
>>>>>>>>> Guest 2:        40 seconds            4.3 GB
>>>>>>>>> Guest 3:        50 seconds            6.3 GB
>>>>>>>> OK so no improvement. OTOH Alex's patches cut time down to 5-7 seconds
>>>>>>>> which seems better. Want to try testing Alex's patches for comparison?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I realized that the last time I reported the memhog numbers, I didn't
>>>>>>> enable the swap due to which the actual benefits of the series were not
>>>>>>> shown.
>>>>>>> I have re-run the test by including some of the changes suggested by
>>>>>>> Alexander and David:
>>>>>>>     * Reduced the size of the per-cpu array to 32 and minimum hinting
>>>>>>> threshold to 16.
>>>>>>>     * Reported length of isolated pages along with start pfn, instead of
>>>>>>> the order from the guest.
>>>>>>>     * Used the reported length to madvise the entire length of address
>>>>>>> instead of a single 4K page.
>>>>>>>     * Replaced MADV_DONTNEED with MADV_FREE.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Setup for the test:
>>>>>>> NUMA node:1
>>>>>>> Memory: 15GB
>>>>>>> Swap: 4GB
>>>>>>> Guest memory: 6GB
>>>>>>> Number of core: 1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Process: A guest is launched and memhog is run with 6GB. As its
>>>>>>> execution is over next guest is launched. Everytime memhog execution
>>>>>>> time is monitored.
>>>>>>> Results:
>>>>>>>     Without Hinting:
>>>>>>>                  Time of execution
>>>>>>>     Guest1:    22s
>>>>>>>     Guest2:    24s
>>>>>>>     Guest3: 1m29s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     With Hinting:
>>>>>>>                 Time of execution
>>>>>>>     Guest1:    24s
>>>>>>>     Guest2:    25s
>>>>>>>     Guest3:    28s
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When hinting is enabled swap space is not used until memhog with 6GB is
>>>>>>> ran in 6th guest.
>>>>>> So one change you may want to make to your test setup would be to
>>>>>> launch the tests sequentially after all the guests all up, instead of
>>>>>> combining the test and guest bring-up. In addition you could run
>>>>>> through the guests more than once to determine a more-or-less steady
>>>>>> state in terms of the performance as you move between the guests after
>>>>>> they have hit the point of having to either swap or pull MADV_FREE
>>>>>> pages.
>>>>> I tried running memhog as you suggested, here are the results:
>>>>> Setup for the test:
>>>>> NUMA node:1
>>>>> Memory: 15GB
>>>>> Swap: 4GB
>>>>> Guest memory: 6GB
>>>>> Number of core: 1
>>>>>
>>>>> Process: 3 guests are launched and memhog is run with 6GB. Results are
>>>>> monitored after 1st-time execution of memhog. Memhog is launched
>>>>> sequentially in each of the guests and time is observed after the
>>>>> execution of all 3 memhog is over.
>>>>>
>>>>> Results:
>>>>> Without Hinting
>>>>>     Time of Execution
>>>>> 1.    6m48s
>>>>> 2.    6m9s
>>>>>
>>>>> With Hinting
>>>>> Array size:16 Minimum Threshold:8
>>>>> 1.    2m57s
>>>>> 2.    2m20s
>>>>>
>>>>> The memhog execution time in the case of hinting is still not that low
>>>>> as we would have expected. This is due to the usage of swap space.
>>>>> Although wrt to non-hinting when swap used space is around 3.5G, with
>>>>> hinting it remains to around 1.1-1.5G.
>>>>> I did try using a zone free page barrier which prevented hinting when
>>>>> free pages of order HINTING_ORDER goes below 256. This further brings
>>>>> down the swap usage to 100-150 MB. The tricky part of this approach is
>>>>> to configure this barrier condition for different guests.
>>>>>
>>>>> Array size:16 Minimum Threshold:8
>>>>> 1.    1m16s
>>>>> 2.    1m41s
>>>>>
>>>>> Note: Memhog time does seem to vary a little bit on every boot with or
>>>>> without hinting.
>>>>>
>>>> I don't quite understand yet why "hinting more pages" (no free page
>>>> barrier) should result in a higher swap usage in the hypervisor
>>>> (1.1-1.5GB vs. 100-150 MB). If we are "hinting more pages" I would have
>>>> guessed that runtime could get slower, but not that we need more swap.
>>>>
>>>> One theory:
>>>>
>>>> If you hint all MAX_ORDER - 1 pages, at one point it could be that all
>>>> "remaining" free pages are currently isolated to be hinted. As MM needs
>>>> more pages for a process, it will fallback to using "MAX_ORDER - 2"
>>>> pages and so on. These pages, when they are freed, you won't hint
>>>> anymore unless they get merged. But after all they won't get merged
>>>> because they can't be merged (otherwise they wouldn't be "MAX_ORDER - 2"
>>>> after all right from the beginning).
>>>>
>>>> Try hinting a smaller granularity to see if this could actually be the 
>>>> case.
>>> So I have two questions in my mind after looking at the results now:
>>> 1. Why swap is coming into the picture when hinting is enabled?
>>> 2. Same to what you have raised.
>>> For the 1st question, I think the answer is: (correct me if I am wrong.)
>>> Memhog while writing the memory does free memory but the pages it frees
>>> are of a lower order which doesn't merge until the memhog write
>>> completes. After which we do get the MAX_ORDER - 1 page from the buddy
>>> resulting in hinting.
>>> As all 3 memhog are running parallelly we don't get free memory until
>>> one of them completes.
>>> This does explain that when 3 guests each of 6GB on a 15GB host tries to
>>> run memhog with 6GB parallelly, swap comes into the picture even if
>>> hinting is enabled.
>> Are you running them in parallel or sequentially? 
> I was running them parallelly but then I realized to see any benefits,
> in that case, I should have run less number of guests.
>> I had suggested
>> running them serially so that the previous one could complete and free
>> the memory before the next one allocated memory. In that setup you
>> should see the guests still swapping without hints, but with hints the
>> guest should free the memory up before the next one starts using it.
> Yeah, I just realized this. Thanks for the clarification.
>> If you are running them in parallel then you are going to see things
>> going to swap because memhog does like what the name implies and it
>> will use all of the memory you give it. It isn't until it completes
>> that the memory is freed.
>>
>>> This doesn't explain why putting a barrier or avoid hinting reduced the
>>> swap usage. It seems I possibly had a wrong impression of the delaying
>>> hinting idea which we discussed.
>>> As I was observing the value of the swap at the end of the memhog
>>> execution which is logically incorrect. I will re-run the test and
>>> observe the highest swap usage during the entire execution of memhog for
>>> hinting vs non-hinting.
>> So one option you may look at if you are wanting to run the tests in
>> parallel would be to limit the number of tests you have running at the
>> same time. If you have 15G of memory and 6G per guest you should be
>> able to run 2 sessions at a time without going to swap, however if you
>> run all 3 then you are likely going to be going to swap even with
>> hinting.
>>
>> - Alex
Here are the updated numbers excluding the guest bring-up cost:
Setup for the test-
NUMA node:1
Memory: 15GB
Swap: 4GB
Guest memory: 6GB
Number of core: 1
Process: 3 guests are launched and memhog is run serially with 6GB.
Results:
Without Hinting
                    Time of Execution   
Guest1:                56s                        
Guest2:                45s           
Guest3:                3m41s           

With Hinting
Guest1:                46s                        
Guest2:                45s           
Guest3:                49s           




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Regards
Nitesh

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