On Thu, Jul 25, 2019 at 03:43:41PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> 
> On 2019/7/25 下午1:52, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 09:31:35PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > On 2019/7/23 下午5:26, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 04:49:01PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > On 2019/7/23 下午4:10, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 03:53:06PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > > > > On 2019/7/23 下午3:23, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Really let's just use kfree_rcu. It's way cleaner: fire and 
> > > > > > > > > > forget.
> > > > > > > > > Looks not, you need rate limit the fire as you've figured out?
> > > > > > > > See the discussion that followed. Basically no, it's good enough
> > > > > > > > already and is only going to be better.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > And in fact,
> > > > > > > > > the synchronization is not even needed, does it help if I 
> > > > > > > > > leave a comment to
> > > > > > > > > explain?
> > > > > > > > Let's try to figure it out in the mail first. I'm pretty sure 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > current logic is wrong.
> > > > > > > Here is what the code what to achieve:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - The map was protected by RCU
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - Writers are: MMU notifier invalidation callbacks, file 
> > > > > > > operations (ioctls
> > > > > > > etc), meta_prefetch (datapath)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - Readers are: memory accessor
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Writer are synchronized through mmu_lock. RCU is used to 
> > > > > > > synchronized
> > > > > > > between writers and readers.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > The synchronize_rcu() in vhost_reset_vq_maps() was used to 
> > > > > > > synchronized it
> > > > > > > with readers (memory accessors) in the path of file operations. 
> > > > > > > But in this
> > > > > > > case, vq->mutex was already held, this means it has been 
> > > > > > > serialized with
> > > > > > > memory accessor. That's why I think it could be removed safely.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Anything I miss here?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > So invalidate callbacks need to reset the map, and they do
> > > > > > not have vq mutex. How can they do this and free
> > > > > > the map safely? They need synchronize_rcu or kfree_rcu right?
> > > > > Invalidation callbacks need but file operations (e.g ioctl) not.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > And I worry somewhat that synchronize_rcu in an MMU notifier
> > > > > > is a problem, MMU notifiers are supposed to be quick:
> > > > > Looks not, since it can allow to be blocked and lots of driver 
> > > > > depends on
> > > > > this. (E.g mmu_notifier_range_blockable()).
> > > > Right, they can block. So why don't we take a VQ mutex and be
> > > > done with it then? No RCU tricks.
> > > 
> > > This is how I want to go with RFC and V1. But I end up with deadlock 
> > > between
> > > vq locks and some MM internal locks. So I decide to use RCU which is 100%
> > > under the control of vhost.
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > And I guess the deadlock is because GUP is taking mmu locks which are
> > taken on mmu notifier path, right?
> 
> 
> Yes, but it's not the only lock. I don't remember the details, but I can
> confirm I meet issues with one or two other locks.
> 
> 
> >    How about we add a seqlock and take
> > that in invalidate callbacks?  We can then drop the VQ lock before GUP,
> > and take it again immediately after.
> > 
> > something like
> >     if (!vq_meta_mapped(vq)) {
> >             vq_meta_setup(&uaddrs);
> >             mutex_unlock(vq->mutex)
> >             vq_meta_map(&uaddrs);
> 
> 
> The problem is the vq address could be changed at this time.
> 
> 
> >             mutex_lock(vq->mutex)
> > 
> >             /* recheck both sock->private_data and seqlock count. */
> >             if changed - bail out
> >     }
> > 
> > And also requires that VQ uaddrs is defined like this:
> > - writers must have both vq mutex and dev mutex
> > - readers must have either vq mutex or dev mutex
> > 
> > 
> > That's a big change though. For now, how about switching to a per-vq SRCU?
> > That is only a little bit more expensive than RCU, and we
> > can use synchronize_srcu_expedited.
> > 
> 
> Consider we switch to use kfree_rcu(), what's the advantage of per-vq SRCU?
> 
> Thanks


I thought we established that notifiers must wait for
all readers to finish before they mark page dirty, to
prevent page from becoming dirty after address
has been invalidated.
Right?

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