On Sat, 7 Sep 2019, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2019, Raj, Ashok wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 11:16:00PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > Now #1 is actually a sensible and feasible solution which can be pulled 
> > > off
> > > in a reasonably short time frame, avoids all the bound to be ugly and
> > > failure laden attempts of fixing late loading completely and provides a
> > > usable and safe solution for joe user, jack admin and the super experts at
> > > big-cloud corporate.
> > > 
> > > That is not requiring any new format of microcode payload, as this can be
> > > nicely done as a metadata package which comes with the microcode
> > > payload. So you get the following backwards compatible states:
> > > 
> > >   Kernel  metadata          result
> > > 
> > >   old       don't care      refuse late load
> > > 
> > >   new       No              refuse late load
> > > 
> > >   new       Yes             decide based on metadata
> > > 
> > > Thoughts?
> > 
> > This is 100% in line with what we proposed... 
> 
> So what it hindering you to implement that? ucode teams whining about the
> little bit of extra work?

That said, there is also a distinct lack of information about micro code
loading in a safe way in general. We absolutely do not know whether a micro
code update affects any instruction which might be in use during the update
on a sibling. Right now it's all load and pray and the SDM is not really
helpful with that either.

Thanks,

        tglx

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