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Subject: RE: [PATCH] ACPICA: make acpi_load_table() return table index

On Fri, 13 Sep 2019, Moore, Robert wrote:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ferry Toth [mailto:[email protected]]
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> To: Shevchenko, Andriy <[email protected]>; Moore, Robert 
> <[email protected]>
> Cc: Nikolaus Voss <[email protected]>; Schmauss, Erik 
> <[email protected]>; Rafael J. Wysocki <[email protected]>; Len 
> Brown <[email protected]>; Jacek Anaszewski 
> <[email protected]>; Pavel Machek <[email protected]>; Dan Murphy 
> <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
> [email protected]; [email protected]; Jan 
> Kiszka <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] ACPICA: make acpi_load_table() return table index
>
> Hello all,
>
> Sorry to have sent our message with cancelled e-mail address. I have correct 
> this now.
>
> Op 13-09-19 om 17:12 schreef Shevchenko, Andriy:
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 05:20:21PM +0300, Moore, Robert wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Nikolaus Voss [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2019 12:44 AM
>>> To: Moore, Robert <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: Shevchenko, Andriy <[email protected]>; Schmauss, Erik 
>>> <[email protected]>; Rafael J. Wysocki <[email protected]>; 
>>> Len Brown <[email protected]>; Jacek Anaszewski 
>>> <[email protected]>; Pavel Machek <[email protected]>; Dan 
>>> Murphy <[email protected]>; [email protected]; 
>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; Ferry Toth 
>>> <[email protected]>; [email protected]
>>> Subject: RE: [PATCH] ACPICA: make acpi_load_table() return table 
>>> index
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> On Thu, 12 Sep 2019, Moore, Robert wrote:
>>>> The ability to unload an ACPI table (especially AML tables such as
>>>> SSDTs) is in the process of being deprecated in ACPICA -- since it 
>>>> is also deprecated in the current ACPI specification. This is being 
>>>> done because of the difficulty of deleting the namespace entries 
>>>> for the table.  FYI, Windows does not properly support this function 
>>>> either.
>>>
>>> ok, I see it can be a problem to unload an AML table with all it's 
>>> consequences e.g. with respect to driver unregistering in setups 
>>> with complex dependencies. It will only work properly under certain 
>>> conditions
>>> - nevertheless acpi_tb_unload_table() is still exported in ACPICA and we 
>>> should get this working as it worked before.
>>>
>>> AcpiTbUnloadTable is not exported, it is an internal interface only
>>> -- as recognized by the "AcpiTb".
>>
>> In Linux it became a part of ABI when the
>>
>> commit 772bf1e2878ecfca0d1f332071c83e021dd9cf01
>> Author: Jan Kiszka <[email protected]>
>> Date:   Fri Jun 9 20:36:31 2017 +0200
>>
>>      ACPI: configfs: Unload SSDT on configfs entry removal
>>
>> appeared in the kernel.
>
> And the commit message explains quite well why it is an important feature:
>
> "This allows to change SSDTs without rebooting the system.
> It also allows to destroy devices again that a dynamically loaded SSDT 
> created.
>
> The biggest problem AFAIK is that under linux, many drivers cannot be 
> unloaded. Also, there are many race conditions as the namespace entries 
> "owned" by an SSDT being unloaded are deleted (out from underneath a driver).
>
> This is widely similar to the DT overlay behavior."
>
>>> I'm not sure that I want to change the interface to AcpiLoadTable 
>>> just for something that is being deprecated. Already, we throw an 
>>> ACPI_EXCEPTION if the Unload operator is encountered in the AML byte 
>>> stream. The same thing with AcpiUnloadParentTable - it is being deprecated.
>>>
>>>      ACPI_EXCEPTION ((AE_INFO, AE_NOT_IMPLEMENTED,
>>>          "AML Unload operator is not supported"));

Bob, what is your suggestion to fix the regression then?

We could revert acpi_configfs.c to use acpi_tb_install_and_load_table() instead 
of acpi_load_table(), leaving loaded APCI objects uninitalized, but at least, 
unloading will work again.

I guess my next question is: why do you want to unload a table in the first 
place?


Do we have any other options?

Niko

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