On Thursday, November 5, 2020 6:14:01 PM CET Srinivas Pandruvada wrote: > On Thu, 2020-11-05 at 14:53 +1100, Victor Ding wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 1:17 PM Srinivas Pandruvada > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2020-11-04 at 12:43 +1100, Victor Ding wrote: > > > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 4:09 AM Srinivas Pandruvada > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 2020-11-03 at 17:10 +1100, Victor Ding wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 12:39 PM Zhang Rui < > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > On Tue, 2020-10-27 at 07:23 +0000, Victor Ding wrote: > > > > > > > > This patch enables AMD Fam17h RAPL support for the power > > > > > > > > capping > > > > > > > > framework. The support is as per AMD Fam17h Model31h > > > > > > > > (Zen2) > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > model 00-ffh (Zen1) PPR. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tested by comparing the results of following two sysfs > > > > > > > > entries > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > values directly read from corresponding MSRs via > > > > > > > > /dev/cpu/[x]/msr: > > > > > > > > /sys/class/powercap/intel-rapl/intel-rapl:0/energy_uj > > > > > > > > /sys/class/powercap/intel-rapl/intel-rapl:0/intel- > > > > > > > > rapl:0:0/energy_uj > > > > > > > > > > Is this for just energy reporting? No capping of power? > > > > Correct, the hardware does not support capping of power. > > > I wonder if there is no capping, is this the right interface? > > > Do you have specific user space, which cares about this? > > We have tools that previously developed to measure energy status > > on Intel via the powercap interface. Powercap is the only interface > > allowing reading RAPL energy counters without requiring MSR access > > privileges. We want to use these tools on AMD with minimal > > modifications. > > I believe the powercap interface should support these counters, > > regardless of the use cases, mainly for two reasons: > > 1. Powercap interface already supports monitoring-only power domains, > > e.g. power limit is locked by BIOS or the (Intel) CPU does not expose > > an > > MSR for certain power domains. The latter is the exact situation on > > AMD; > > 2. As AMD has partially introduced the equivalent of Intel's RAPL, we > > should leverage this opportunity to reduce the divergence in the > > APIs. i.e. > > OS as a hardware abstraction layer should allow users to use the same > > set of APIs to access RAPL features if it issupported on both Intel > > and AMD. > > In this specific case, if users can query for Intel's RAPL counters > > via > > powercap, they should be able to do so as well for AMD's. > > > I think these counters are already exposed via hwmon sysf. > > Yes, they were introduced early this year. However, it is not the > > same as > > the counters exposed via powercap interface: powercap exposes the > > actual value of the energy counters while hwmon adds an accumulation > > layer on top. > > In addition, I don't think Intel's RAPL counters are exposed via > > hwmon; > > therefore: 1. existing fine grade power monitoring tools are not > > based on > > hwmon; 2. new tools cannot query the same set of counters via the > > same > > API so that they have to actively maintain two sets of logic. > > Fine with me.
OK, I'll queue up the series for 5.11 then if there are no other concerns. Thanks!

