On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 01:12:48PM -0500, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 10:37:37AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > Hello, Joel,
> > 
> > In case you are -seriously- interested...  ;-)
> 
> I am always seriously interested :-). The issue becomes when life throws me a
> curveball. This was the year of curveballs :-)
> 
> Thank you for your reply and I have added it to my list to investigate how we
> are configuring nocb on our systems. I don't think anyone over here has given
> these RCU issues a serious look over here.

In your defense, I would guess that many of them don't have that much
effect.  But true, you never know until you try.

                                                        Thanx, Paul

> thanks,
> 
>  - Joel
> 
> 
> 
> >                                             Thanx, Paul
> > 
> > rcu_nocbs=
> > 
> >     Adding a CPU to this list offloads RCU callback invocation from
> >     that CPU's softirq handler to a kthread.  In big.LITTLE systems,
> >     this kthread can be placed on a LITTLE CPU, which has been
> >     demonstrated to save significant energy in benchmarks.
> >     
> > http://www.rdrop.com/users/paulmck/realtime/paper/AMPenergy.2013.04.19a.pdf
> > 
> > nohz_full=
> > 
> >     Any CPU specified by this boot parameter is handled as if it was
> >     specified by rcu_nocbs=.
> > 
> > rcutree.jiffies_till_first_fqs=
> > 
> >     Increasing this will decrease wakeup frequency to the grace-period
> >     kthread for the first FQS scan.  And increase grace-period
> >     latency.
> > 
> > rcutree.jiffies_till_next_fqs=
> > 
> >     Ditto, but for the second and subsequent FQS scans.
> > 
> >     My guess is that neither of these makes much difference.  But if
> >     they do, maybe some sort of backoff scheme for FQS scans?
> > 
> > rcutree.jiffies_till_sched_qs=
> > 
> >     Increasing this will delay RCU's getting excited about CPUs and
> >     tasks not responding with quiescent states.  This excitement
> >     can cause extra overhead.
> > 
> >     No idea whether adjusting this would help.  But if you increase
> >     rcutree.jiffies_till_first_fqs or rcutree.jiffies_till_next_fqs,
> >     you might need to increase this one accordingly.
> > 
> > rcutree.qovld=
> > 
> >     Increasing this will increase the grace-period duration at which
> >     RCU starts sending IPIs, thus perhaps reducing the total number
> >     of IPIs that RCU sends.  The destination CPUs are unlikely to be
> >     idle, so it is not clear to me that this would help much.  But
> >     perhaps I am wrong about them being mostly non-idle, who knows?
> > 
> > rcupdate.rcu_cpu_stall_timeout=
> > 
> >     If you get overly zealous about the earlier kernel boot parameters,
> >     you might need to increase this one as well.  Or instead use the
> >     rcupdate.rcu_cpu_stall_suppress= kernel boot parameter to suppress
> >     RCU CPU stall warnings entirely.
> > 
> > rcutree.rcu_nocb_gp_stride=
> > 
> >     Increasing this might reduce grace-period work somewhat.  I don't
> >     see why a (say) 16-CPU system really needs to have more than one
> >     rcuog kthread, so if this does help it might be worthwhile setting
> >     a lower limit to this kernel parameter.
> > 
> > rcutree.rcu_idle_gp_delay=  (Only CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ=y kernels.)
> > 
> >     This defaults to four jiffies on the theory that grace periods
> >     tend to last about that long.  If grace periods tend to take
> >     longer, then it makes a lot of sense to increase this.  And maybe
> >     battery-powered devices would rather have it be about 2x or 3x
> >     the expected grace-period duration, who knows?
> > 
> >     I would keep it to a power of two, but the code should work with
> >     other numbers.  Except that I don't know that this has ever been
> >     tested.  ;-)
> > 
> > srcutree.exp_holdoff=
> > 
> >     Increasing this decreases the number of SRCU grace periods that
> >     are treated as expedited.  But you have to have closely-spaced
> >     SRCU grace periods for this to matter.  (These do happen at least
> >     sometimes because I added this only because someone complained
> >     about the performance regression from the earlier non-tree SRCU.)
> > 
> > rcupdate.rcu_task_ipi_delay=
> > 
> >     This kernel parameter delays sending IPIs for RCU Tasks Trace,
> >     which is used by sleepable BPF programs.  Increasing it can
> >     reduce overhead, but can also increase the latency of removing
> >     sleepable BPF programs.
> > 
> > rcupdate.rcu_task_stall_timeout=
> > 
> >     If you slow down RCU Tasks Trace too much, you may need this.
> >     But then again, the default 10-minute value should suffice.
> > 
> > CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ=y
> > 
> >     This only has effect on CPUs not specified by rcu_nocbs, and thus
> >     might be useful on systems that offload RCU callbacks only on
> >     some of the CPUs.  For example, a big.LITTLE system might offload
> >     only the big CPUs.  This Kconfig option reduces the frequency of
> >     timer interrupts (and thus of RCU-related softirq processing)
> >     on idle CPUs.  This has been shown to save significant energy
> >     in benchmarks:
> >     
> > http://www.rdrop.com/users/paulmck/realtime/paper/AMPenergy.2013.04.19a.pdf
> > 
> > CONFIG_RCU_STRICT_GRACE_PERIOD=y
> > 
> >     This works hard (as in burns CPU) to sharply reduce grace-period
> >     latency.  The effect is probably to greatly increase power
> >     consumption, but there might well be workloads where the shorter
> >     grace periods more than make up for the extra CPU time.  Or not.
> > 
> > CONFIG_HZ=
> > 
> >     Reducing the scheduler-clock interrupt frequency has the opposite
> >     effect, namely of increasing RCU grace-period latency, but while
> >     also reducing RCU's CPU utilization.
> > 
> > CONFIG_TASKS_TRACE_RCU_READ_MB=y
> > 
> >     Reduce the need to IPI RCU Tasks Trace holdout tasks, but at the
> >     expense of an increase in to/from idle overhead.  This Kconfig
> >     option also slows down the rate at which RCU Tasks Trace polls
> >     for holdout tasks.  This polling rate cannot be separately
> >     specified, but if changing the initial source-code values of
> >     either rcu_tasks_trace.gp_sleep or rcu_tasks_trace.init_fract
> >     proves useful, kernel boot parameters could be created.
> > 
> >     That said, automatic initialization heuristics are more
> >     convenient.  When they work, anyway.

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