On Sat, Jun 21, 2025 at 10:34:38AM +0200, Thomas Weißschuh wrote: > On 2025-06-21 06:14:21+0200, Willy Tarreau wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2025 at 11:39:32PM +0200, Thomas Weißschuh wrote: > > > The nolibc tests are not real kselftests, they work differently and > > > provide a different interface. Users trying to use them like real > > > selftests may be confused and the tests are not executed by CI systems. > > > > > > To make space for an integration with the kselftest framework, move the > > > custom tests out of the way. > > > The custom tests are still useful to keep as they provide functionality > > > not provided by kselftests. > > > > I'm wondering, what prevents us from merging the new rules into the > > current makefile instead of renaming it, especially considering the > > fact that we initially took care of not confiscating the "all" target ? > > We'll have conflicts around CFLAGS, the nolibc-test target and probably > other things.
OK I understand. > It will also make everything harder to understand and may > break unexpectedly in the future. > > > I'm asking because: > > > > $ make -f Makefile.nolibc help > > > > is clearly less convenient and intuitive than: > > > > $ make help > > Is your issue specifically with the help target? Not just but that's an entry point. Admittedly it's not a big problem, I was merely asking if there was a real reason for splitting them apart or if it was just to keep the stuff clean. > We should be able to show the help message from the main Makefile with a > hint to the Makefile.nolibc. I thought about it as well, we could have a help target in the main makefile that just emits "Please run make -f Makefile.nolibc with the following targets:", and then runs "make -f Makefile.nolibc help". > Another, more general, possibility would be to move the special Makefile > to tools/testing/nolibc/ and keep only the selftest parts in > tools/testing/selftests/nolibc/. I hadn't thought about this, but that could indeed make sense. Let's see later how it goes and let's not add burden about this for now. Please just keep your patch as-is. Thanks, Willy