On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 11:27:25PM +0200, Simon Schippers wrote:
> On 23.09.25 18:36, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 23, 2025 at 12:15:49AM +0200, Simon Schippers wrote:
> >> The new wrappers tun_ring_consume/tap_ring_consume deal with consuming an
> >> entry of the ptr_ring and then waking the netdev queue when entries got
> >> invalidated to be used again by the producer.
> >> To avoid waking the netdev queue when the ptr_ring is full, it is checked
> >> if the netdev queue is stopped before invalidating entries. Like that the
> >> netdev queue can be safely woken after invalidating entries.
> >>
> >> The READ_ONCE in __ptr_ring_peek, paired with the smp_wmb() in
> >> __ptr_ring_produce within tun_net_xmit guarantees that the information
> >> about the netdev queue being stopped is visible after __ptr_ring_peek is
> >> called.
> >>
> >> The netdev queue is also woken after resizing the ptr_ring.
> >>
> >> Co-developed-by: Tim Gebauer <[email protected]>
> >> Signed-off-by: Tim Gebauer <[email protected]>
> >> Signed-off-by: Simon Schippers <[email protected]>
> >> ---
> >>  drivers/net/tap.c | 44 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-
> >>  drivers/net/tun.c | 47 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >>  2 files changed, 88 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/net/tap.c b/drivers/net/tap.c
> >> index 1197f245e873..f8292721a9d6 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/net/tap.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/net/tap.c
> >> @@ -753,6 +753,46 @@ static ssize_t tap_put_user(struct tap_queue *q,
> >>    return ret ? ret : total;
> >>  }
> >>  
> >> +static struct sk_buff *tap_ring_consume(struct tap_queue *q)
> >> +{
> >> +  struct netdev_queue *txq;
> >> +  struct net_device *dev;
> >> +  bool will_invalidate;
> >> +  bool stopped;
> >> +  void *ptr;
> >> +
> >> +  spin_lock(&q->ring.consumer_lock);
> >> +  ptr = __ptr_ring_peek(&q->ring);
> >> +  if (!ptr) {
> >> +          spin_unlock(&q->ring.consumer_lock);
> >> +          return ptr;
> >> +  }
> >> +
> >> +  /* Check if the queue stopped before zeroing out, so no ptr get
> >> +   * produced in the meantime, because this could result in waking
> >> +   * even though the ptr_ring is full.
> > 
> > So what? Maybe it would be a bit suboptimal? But with your design, I do
> > not get what prevents this:
> > 
> > 
> >     stopped? -> No
> >             ring is stopped
> >     discard
> > 
> > and queue stays stopped forever
> > 
> 
> I think I found a solution to this problem, see below:
> 
> > 
> >> The order of the operations
> >> +   * is ensured by barrier().
> >> +   */
> >> +  will_invalidate = __ptr_ring_will_invalidate(&q->ring);
> >> +  if (unlikely(will_invalidate)) {
> >> +          rcu_read_lock();
> >> +          dev = rcu_dereference(q->tap)->dev;
> >> +          txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, q->queue_index);
> >> +          stopped = netif_tx_queue_stopped(txq);
> >> +  }
> >> +  barrier();
> >> +  __ptr_ring_discard_one(&q->ring, will_invalidate);
> >> +
> >> +  if (unlikely(will_invalidate)) {
> 
> Here I just check for
> 
>       if (will_invalidate || __ptr_ring_empty(&q->ring)) {
> 
> instead because, if the ptr_ring is empty and the netdev queue stopped,
> the race must have occurred. Then it is safe to wake the netdev queue,
> because it is known that space in the ptr_ring was freed when the race
> occurred. Also, it is guaranteed that tap_ring_consume is called at least
> once after the race, because a new entry is generated by the producer at
> the race.
> In my adjusted implementation, it tests fine with pktgen without any lost
> packets.


what if it is not empty and ring is stopped?

> 
> Generally now I think that the whole implementation can be fine without
> using spinlocks at all. I am currently adjusting the implementation
> regarding SMP memory barrier pairings, and I have a question:
> In the v4 you mentioned "the stop -> wake bounce involves enough barriers
> already". Does it, for instance, mean that netif_tx_wake_queue already
> ensures memory ordering, and I do not have to use an smp_wmb() in front of
> netif_tx_wake_queue() and smp_rmb() in front of the ptr_ring operations
> in tun_net_xmit?
> I dug through net/core/netdevice.h and dev.c but could not really
> answer this question by myself...
> Thanks :)

Only if it wakes up something, I think.

Read:

SLEEP AND WAKE-UP FUNCTIONS


in Documentation/memory-barriers.txt


IIUC this is the same.


> 
> >> +          if (stopped)
> >> +                  netif_tx_wake_queue(txq);
> >> +          rcu_read_unlock();
> >> +  }
> > 
> > 
> > After an entry is consumed, you can detect this by checking
> > 
> >                     r->consumer_head >= r->consumer_tail
> > 
> > 
> > so it seems you could keep calling regular ptr_ring_consume
> > and check afterwards?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> +  spin_unlock(&q->ring.consumer_lock);
> >> +
> >> +  return ptr;
> >> +}
> >> +
> >>  static ssize_t tap_do_read(struct tap_queue *q,
> >>                       struct iov_iter *to,
> >>                       int noblock, struct sk_buff *skb)
> >> @@ -774,7 +814,7 @@ static ssize_t tap_do_read(struct tap_queue *q,
> >>                                    TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> >>  
> >>            /* Read frames from the queue */
> >> -          skb = ptr_ring_consume(&q->ring);
> >> +          skb = tap_ring_consume(q);
> >>            if (skb)
> >>                    break;
> >>            if (noblock) {
> >> @@ -1207,6 +1247,8 @@ int tap_queue_resize(struct tap_dev *tap)
> >>    ret = ptr_ring_resize_multiple_bh(rings, n,
> >>                                      dev->tx_queue_len, GFP_KERNEL,
> >>                                      __skb_array_destroy_skb);
> >> +  if (netif_running(dev))
> >> +          netif_tx_wake_all_queues(dev);
> >>  
> >>    kfree(rings);
> >>    return ret;
> >> diff --git a/drivers/net/tun.c b/drivers/net/tun.c
> >> index c6b22af9bae8..682df8157b55 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/net/tun.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/net/tun.c
> >> @@ -2114,13 +2114,53 @@ static ssize_t tun_put_user(struct tun_struct *tun,
> >>    return total;
> >>  }
> >>  
> >> +static void *tun_ring_consume(struct tun_file *tfile)
> >> +{
> >> +  struct netdev_queue *txq;
> >> +  struct net_device *dev;
> >> +  bool will_invalidate;
> >> +  bool stopped;
> >> +  void *ptr;
> >> +
> >> +  spin_lock(&tfile->tx_ring.consumer_lock);
> >> +  ptr = __ptr_ring_peek(&tfile->tx_ring);
> >> +  if (!ptr) {
> >> +          spin_unlock(&tfile->tx_ring.consumer_lock);
> >> +          return ptr;
> >> +  }
> >> +
> >> +  /* Check if the queue stopped before zeroing out, so no ptr get
> >> +   * produced in the meantime, because this could result in waking
> >> +   * even though the ptr_ring is full. The order of the operations
> >> +   * is ensured by barrier().
> >> +   */
> >> +  will_invalidate = __ptr_ring_will_invalidate(&tfile->tx_ring);
> >> +  if (unlikely(will_invalidate)) {
> >> +          rcu_read_lock();
> >> +          dev = rcu_dereference(tfile->tun)->dev;
> >> +          txq = netdev_get_tx_queue(dev, tfile->queue_index);
> >> +          stopped = netif_tx_queue_stopped(txq);
> >> +  }
> >> +  barrier();
> >> +  __ptr_ring_discard_one(&tfile->tx_ring, will_invalidate);
> >> +
> >> +  if (unlikely(will_invalidate)) {
> >> +          if (stopped)
> >> +                  netif_tx_wake_queue(txq);
> >> +          rcu_read_unlock();
> >> +  }
> >> +  spin_unlock(&tfile->tx_ring.consumer_lock);
> >> +
> >> +  return ptr;
> >> +}
> >> +
> >>  static void *tun_ring_recv(struct tun_file *tfile, int noblock, int *err)
> >>  {
> >>    DECLARE_WAITQUEUE(wait, current);
> >>    void *ptr = NULL;
> >>    int error = 0;
> >>  
> >> -  ptr = ptr_ring_consume(&tfile->tx_ring);
> >> +  ptr = tun_ring_consume(tfile);
> >>    if (ptr)
> >>            goto out;
> >>    if (noblock) {
> >> @@ -2132,7 +2172,7 @@ static void *tun_ring_recv(struct tun_file *tfile, 
> >> int noblock, int *err)
> >>  
> >>    while (1) {
> >>            set_current_state(TASK_INTERRUPTIBLE);
> >> -          ptr = ptr_ring_consume(&tfile->tx_ring);
> >> +          ptr = tun_ring_consume(tfile);
> >>            if (ptr)
> >>                    break;
> >>            if (signal_pending(current)) {
> >> @@ -3621,6 +3661,9 @@ static int tun_queue_resize(struct tun_struct *tun)
> >>                                      dev->tx_queue_len, GFP_KERNEL,
> >>                                      tun_ptr_free);
> >>  
> >> +  if (netif_running(dev))
> >> +          netif_tx_wake_all_queues(dev);
> >> +
> >>    kfree(rings);
> >>    return ret;
> >>  }
> >> -- 
> >> 2.43.0
> > 


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