On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 3:34 PM Christian König
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 5/16/26 11:19, Barry Song wrote:
> > On Thu, May 14, 2026 at 12:35 AM T.J. Mercier <[email protected]> wrote:
> > [...]
> >>>> I have a question about this part. Albert I guess you are interested
> >>>> only in accounting dmabuf-heap allocations, or do you expect to add
> >>>> __GFP_ACCOUNT or mem_cgroup_charge_dmabuf calls to other
> >>>> non-dmabuf-heap exporters?
> >>>
> >>> We're scoping this to dma-buf heaps for now. CMA heaps and the dmem
> >>> controller are on the radar for follow-up/parallel work (there will be
> >>> dragons and will surely need discussion). For DRM and V4L2 the
> >>> long-term intent is migration to heaps, which would make direct
> >>> accounting on those paths unnecessary.
> >>
> >> Ah I see. GEM buffers exported to dmabufs are what I had in mind. I
> >> guess this would only leave the odd non-DRM driver with the need to
> >> add their own accounting calls, which I don't expect would be a big
> >> problem.
> >>
> >
> > sounds like we still have a long way to go to correctly account for
> > various v4l2, drm, GEM, CMA, etc. In patch 1, the charging is done in
> > dma_buf_export(), so I guess it covers all dma-buf types except
> > dma_heap, but the problem is that it has no remote charging support at
> > all?
>
> No, just the other way around
>
> DMA-buf heaps can be handled here because we know that it is pure system 
> memory and nothing special so memcg always applies.
>
> dma_buf_export() on the other hand handles tons of different use cases, 
> ranging from buffer accounted to dmem, over special resources which aren't 
> even memory all the way to buffers which can migrate from dmem to memcg and 
> back during their lifetime.
>

Hi Christian,

Thanks very much for your explanation. So basically it seems that
dma_buf_export() is not the proper place to charge, since it may end up
mixing in non-system-memory accounting?

My question is also about the global view for both heap and non-heap cases.
After reading the discussion, I’ve tried to summarize it—please let me know
if my understanding is correct.

for dma_heap, we have the ioctl DMA_HEAP_IOCTL_ALLOC, where users can pass a
remote pidfd or similar information to indicate where the dma-buf should be
charged, as in Albert's patchset.

For non-dma_heap dma-bufs, we don’t have an obvious userspace entry point that
triggers the allocation. So we likely need other approaches. We could either
move more drivers over to dma-heap, or introduce something like
DMA_BUF_IOCTL_XFER_CHARGE, as you are discussing, to let userspace explicitly
declare a charge.

Best Regards
Barry

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