Hi,

On Wed, Sep 2, 2026 at 12:50 PM Paul E. McKenney <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 02, 2026 at 10:30:15AM -0400, Alexander Aring wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 2, 2026 at 10:16 AM Zqiang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Sep 1, 2026 at 5:19 AM Zqiang <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The dlm_lowcomms_exit() and dlm_midcomms_exit() iterate over the
> > > > >  srcu protected connection and node hash tables and hand each
> > > > >  element to call_srcu() for deferred freeing (connection_release()
> > > > >  and midcomms_node_release()). call_srcu() is asynchronous: the
> > > > >  callbacks are invoked only after an SRCU grace period, which may
> > > > >  happen after the exit function has already returned.
> > > > >
> > > > >  These exit functions are reached from exit_dlm() on module unload.
> > > > >  Once they return, module teardown continues and the module text
> > > > >  may be unloaded while call_srcu() callbacks are still pending. When
> > > > >  such a callback finally runs, it executes freed module code and
> > > > >  touches the static SRCU domains that are being torn down, resulting
> > > > >  in a use-after-free.
> > > > >
> > > > I thought again about this and in my opinion this is not possible as
> > > > it is already being handled by DEFINE_STATIC_SRCU() with a cleanup
> > > > handling when the module is unloaded.
> > >
> > > When the moudle unload, the srcu_module_going() will call 
> > > cleanup_srcu_struct()
> > > and free_percpu(ssp->sda) to release resource. but we not call 
> > > srcu_barrier(),
> > > the srcu_barrier() should be called before cleanup_srcu_struct().
> > >
> > >
> > > > I know that srcu subsystem does a lot of magic with modules init/exit
> > > > functionality to call init_srcu_struct() and cleanup_srcu_struct().
> > > > See
> > > >
> > > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/kernel/module/main.c?h=v7.3-rc1#n2711
> > > >
> > > > so this patch should be reverted. If they don't use a barrier there,
> > > > the fix should be in the SRCU subsystem, but I believe the current
> > > > SRCU implementation already handles this.
> > >
> > > The srcu_barrier() need to be called, there are some description
> > > from Documentation/RCU/rcubarrier.rst:
> > >
> > > rcu_barrier()
> > > -------------
> > >
> > > This situation can be handled by the rcu_barrier() primitive.  Rather
> > > than waiting for a grace period to elapse, rcu_barrier() waits for all
> > > outstanding RCU callbacks to complete.  Please note that rcu_barrier()
> > > does **not** imply synchronize_rcu(), in particular, if there are no RCU
> > > callbacks queued anywhere, rcu_barrier() is within its rights to return
> > > immediately, without waiting for anything, let alone a grace period.
> > >
> > > Pseudo-code using rcu_barrier() is as follows:
> > >
> > >    1. Prevent any new RCU callbacks from being posted.
> > >    2. Execute rcu_barrier().
> > >    3. Allow the module to be unloaded.
> > >
> > > There is also an srcu_barrier() function for SRCU, and you of course
> > > must match the flavor of srcu_barrier() with that of call_srcu().
> > > If your module uses multiple srcu_struct structures, then it must also
> > > use multiple invocations of srcu_barrier() when unloading that module.
> > > For example, if it uses call_rcu(), call_srcu() on srcu_struct_1, and
> > > call_srcu() on srcu_struct_2, then the following three lines of code
> > > will be required when unloading::
> > >
> > >   1  rcu_barrier();
> > >   2  srcu_barrier(&srcu_struct_1);
> > >   3  srcu_barrier(&srcu_struct_2);
> > > ....
> >
> > yes, I can see this makes problems when there is kmem_cache involved
> > and you need to be sure it's being done before you destroy the
> > kmem_cache.
> >
> > This is not the case here.
> >
> > I looked more into srcu functionality "cleanup_srcu_struct()"
> > (srcutiny) and it does "flush_work(&ssp->srcu_work)", workfn is
> > "srcu_drive_gp()" and the comment states "Workqueue handler to drive
> > one grace period and invoke any callbacks that become ready as a
> > result."
> >
> > In my opinion "cleanup_srcu_struct()" should be sure there are no
> > pending operations.
>
> If the user never passed this srcu_struct structure to call_srcu(),
> then there would be nothing to clean up.  Now, maybe all SRCU use cases
> are OK with the extra srcu_barrier() overhead at cleanup_srcu_struct()
> time, but as far as I know, that is still a "maybe".
>

Okay, I agree with the "maybe" argument, then maybe we add a comment
to "cleanup_srcu_struct()" that there must be a "srcu_barrier()"
called before. Except "call_srcu()" is never being used.

> And of course, cleanup_srcu_struct() has no ability to prevent the
> user from doing a (buggy!) concurrent call to synchronize_srcu() or
> call_srcu(), which would defeat any attempt by cleanup_srcu_struct()
> to do this pending-operation cleanup.
>
> Or am I missing your point?

I use "DEFINE_STATIC_SRCU()" that does the srcu cleanup for me and I
was confused I need to care about "srcu_barrier()" before module exit.
Then "DEFINE_STATIC_SRCU()" needs a comment as well to call
"srcu_barrier()" before module exit functionality as my initial
thought would be it would do that for me as I am even not a caller of
"cleanup_srcu_struct()".

All of this, of course, should happen in a safe context. Wheras for
"DEFINE_STATIC_SRCU()" I would assume after users module exit function
there is nothing going on anymore.

- Alex


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