On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 6:30 AM, David Ahern <dsah...@gmail.com> wrote: > > One of the problems is that existing binaries set the exclude_guest flag > (https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/7/9/292).
[ to zero ] Yeah. And it apparently *never* worked. So it's not a regression. > So, requesting users to update their binaries if they want to use precise > sampling is not acceptable. A 100% catastrophic failure of all running VMs > is acceptable? All VMs will crash and there is no direct causal > relationship. So instead, you expect everybody else - for whom things *used* to work - to upgrade their binary, or their scripts, or just start using an insane command line flag that makes no sense for them? Forcing non-virtualization users to use a "only trace the host" flag is crazy. Either way, somebody will be unhappy. No question about that. But our rule in the kernel is "no regressions". Now, I do agree that for "perf", it's fairly easy to say "just recompile". I can do it in seconds, and it would presumably solve my problem by just making the "host only" case the default, and I don't need the "H" any more. But that whole "no regressions" really is important. I can work around things very easily, but the "no regressions" rule really means that I should never *need* to work around things. So when I see a regression, I consider it a major bug, even if the workaround is trivial. Linus -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majord...@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/