On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Ingo Molnar <[email protected]> wrote: > > * Andy Lutomirski <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > My reasoning: on modern uarchs there's no penalty for 32-bit misalignment >> > of >> > 64-bit variables, only if they cross 64-byte cache lines, which should be >> > rare >> > with a chance of 1:16. This small penalty (of at most +1 cycle in some >> > circumstances IIRC) should be more than counterbalanced by the compression >> > of >> > the stack by 5% on average. >> >> I'll counter with: what's the benefit? There are no operations that will >> naturally change RSP by anything that isn't a multiple of 8 (there's no >> pushl in >> 64-bit mode, or at least not on AMD chips -- the Intel manual is a bit vague >> on >> this point), so we'll end up with RSP being a multiple of 8 regardless. >> Even if >> we somehow shaved 4 bytes off in asm, that still wouldn't buy us anything, >> as a >> dangling 4 bytes at the bottom of the stack isn't useful for anything. > > Yeah, so it might be utilized in frame-pointer less builds (which we might be > able > to utilize in the future if sane Dwarf code comes around), which does not use > push/pop to manage the stack but often has patterns like: > > ffffffff8102aa90 <SyS_getpriority>: > ffffffff8102aa90: 48 83 ec 18 sub $0x18,%rsp > > and uses MOVs to manage the stack. Those kinds of stack frames could be 4-byte > granular as well. > > But yeah ... it's pretty marginal.
To get even that, we'd need an additional ABI-changing GCC flag to change GCC's idea of the alignment of long from 8 to 4. (I just checked: g++ thinks that alignof(long) == 8. I was too lazy to look up how to ask the equivalent question in C.) --Andy -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to [email protected] More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/

