* Paolo Bonzini <[email protected]> wrote:

> > Hmm.
> > 
> > If we did this, I think I'd prefer a slightly more general approach. First 
> > teach KVM to support a mode in which it's purely an emulator (Paolo: how 
> > hard 
> > is this?  It would also make testing the emulator much easier).
> 
> This isn't hard, at least for Intel: make emulation_required() return true 
> always (and fix the fallout).  However, it's not necessary.  The emulator is 
> designed to be independent from the rest of KVM.  At some point I think Avi 
> was 
> testing it in userspace (or planning to do so). So you would just move it 
> from 
> arch/x86/kvm to arch/x86/emulate.

Very nice!

> The obvious downside is that the emulator isn't really designed for speed.
>
> In KVM it's currently 1000-1500 times slower than the real thing.  Even if 
> you 
> modified it to remove the KVM overhead (vm86 is just running ring 3 code; no 
> interrupts and no pagetables to walk), it probably would take 300-500 cycles 
> to 
> execute one instruction.

This needs to be tested, but I wouldn't expect it to be a big issue:

 - if anyone cares they can improve its performance

 - or worst case they can upgrade their tool to something newer which will use 
   user-space emulation of 16-bit code anyway ...

 - Furthermore I suspect with vm86 we'd trap out of vm86 mode rather often - 
and a 
   single trap can take thousands of cycles. So I suspect the effective 
slowdown 
   depends on the workload.

 - In the absolute worst case it will perform like a really old CPU.

Thanks,

        Ingo
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to [email protected]
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Reply via email to