> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: matthieu castet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Inviato: domenica 4 settembre 2005 21.11
> 
> ...omissis...
>
> The problem is that lot's of new devices implement part of their dsp 
> function in the kernel space instead of in the device.
> And as company don't want to publish their dsp algorith and open source 
> it, we can't have open source driver for it.
> 
> That the case for bewan device (that even include a libm in their 
> source) and for pulsar pci device...

Nonono: I meant exactly to do an open card with an open dsp software. Next time 
hardware producers will think twice before refraining from disclosing card 
details...

After all, most producers didn't ever need to disclose their firmware as long 
as it is a binary file to be uploaded to the card. But still it took a lot of 
time to have a working ADSL driver under Linux, just because producers didn't 
want to disclose port assignments and the like. I.e.: they preferred not to 
disclose anything instead that just refraining to disclose the firmware, which 
would had to be enough for their purposes.

This is a behaviour that the linux community shall discourage. Designing an 
open hardware and software solution for ADSL connection would be a great way to 
avoid something like this in the future... You don't disclose? I offer an 
alternative which bypasses you.

The matter is not so easy, however: the ADSL standard is complex and dsp 
software has to take into account a lot of ADSL "flavors" (DSLAM producers 
often offer enhancements to the standard way), but it shouldn't be too 
difficult to the linux community to put together the needed gray matter...

Anyway, all these speculations are definitely OT. Sorry about that.

Cheers,

        giampaolo

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