On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 09:36:54AM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On 2/9/11 12:09 PM, Derek Simkowiak wrote:
>> /> Advanced storage configuration has become too difficult to manage UI
>> in the newt manner.  [...] //Bottom line, if you want advanced
>> configuration, you have to use advanced input methods.
>>
>> /    LOL@CentOS! :)
>>
>>      I've used the Ubuntu text-mode CD ("alternate") to set up fairly
>> complicated disk configs, incl. creating an unencrypted RAID1 /boot/ and
>> an encrypted RAID6 root, swap, /home/ on the same set of disks.  I used
>> the advanced input methods of "up", "down", and "enter".
>
>
> Ubuntu is still choosing one UI over the other, as opposed to  
> maintaining both.  RHT has chosen the path of the graphical installer as  
> it is far easier to design intuitive user interfaces that way than to  
> try and manipulate large blocks of ncurses.  Years of customer requests  
> and partner input led to this move, it is not something we just came up  
> with one day while passing around the bong.

Yabbut, what UI is a sysadmin who's been doing this for 20+ years .....

oh. 

I'm guessing that people who would choose Ubutnu are folks like me, who have
been staring at a shell prompt on their personal desktops since G-d was a
little boy, and more than likely work in majority-*ix shops.  I'm also
guessing that Red Hat gets a lot more use in houses which have a lot more
Windows (and people who strongly prefer graphical interfaces).  

Hm.  At least at 5.4, there's still not an encrypt ticky-box in
system-config-kickstart either, which means you either have to generate the ks
file by hand (which can involve multiple instances of slamming your head
against the wall as you suss out the errors) or go build a prototype by hand
using the GUI installer.

:/

And FWIW?  I don't know if it's true in 5.5, but in 5.4 the man page for
system-config-kickstart still said "4th Berkeley Distribution" on the
footer, and had been since 4.8 (the other system I checked).  Jesse?  might
wanna file a doc bug.  Yeah, it's a nitpick.  But enterprise-class Linux
ought to mean enterprise-class documentation. 

-- Glenn
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and this IS the Big Time.

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