Well, if the LV is being used for anything real, then I don't know of
anything where you could remove a block in the middle and still have a
working fs.   You can only reduce fs'es (the ones that you can reduce)
by reducing off of the end and making it smaller.

yes, that's clear to me.

It makes zero sense to be able to remove a block in the middle of a LV
used by just about everything that uses LV's as nothing supports being
able to remove a block in the middle.

yes, that critics is totally valid. from a fs point of view you completely
corrupt  the volume, that's clear to me.

What is your use case that you believe removing a block in the middle
of an LV needs to work?

my use case is creating some badblocks script with lvm which intelligently
handles and skips broken sectors on disks which can't be used otherwise...

my plan is to scan a disk for usable sectors and map the logical volume
around the broken sectors.

whenever more sectors get broken, i'd like to remove the broken ones to have
a usable lv without broken sectors.

since you need to rebuild your data anyway for that disk, you can also
recreate the whole logical volume.

my question and my project is a little bit academic. i'd simply want to try
out how much use you can have from some dead disks which are trash otherwise...


the manpage is telling this:


       Resize an LV by specified PV extents.

       lvresize LV PV ...
           [ -r|--resizefs ]
           [ COMMON_OPTIONS ]



so, that sounds like that i can resize in any direction by specifying extents.


Now if you really need to remove a specific block in the middle of the
LV then you are likely going to need to use pvmove with specific
blocks to replace those blocks with something else.

yes, pvmove is the other approach for that.

but will pvmove continue/finish by all means when moving extents located on a
bad sector ?

the data may be corrupted anywhy, so i thought it's better to skip it.

what i'm really after is some "remap a physical extent to a healty/reserved
section and let zfs selfheal do the rest".  just like "dismiss the problematic
extents and replace with healthy extents".

i'd better like remapping instead of removing a PE, as removing will invalidate
the whole LV....

roland






Am 09.04.23 um 19:32 schrieb Roger Heflin:
On Sun, Apr 9, 2023 at 10:18 AM Roland <devz...@web.de> wrote:
hi,

we can extend a logical volume by arbitrary pv extends like this :


root@s740:~# lvresize mytestVG/blocks_allocated -l +1 /dev/sdb:5
    Size of logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated changed from 1.00
MiB (1 extents) to 2.00 MiB (2 extents).
    Logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated successfully resized.

root@s740:~# lvresize mytestVG/blocks_allocated -l +1 /dev/sdb:10
    Size of logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated changed from 2.00
MiB (2 extents) to 3.00 MiB (3 extents).
    Logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated successfully resized.

root@s740:~# lvresize mytestVG/blocks_allocated -l +1 /dev/sdb:15
    Size of logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated changed from 3.00
MiB (3 extents) to 4.00 MiB (4 extents).
    Logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated successfully resized.

root@s740:~# lvresize mytestVG/blocks_allocated -l +1 /dev/sdb:20
    Size of logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated changed from 4.00
MiB (4 extents) to 5.00 MiB (5 extents).
    Logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated successfully resized.

root@s740:~# pvs --segments
-olv_name,seg_start_pe,seg_size_pe,pvseg_start  -O pvseg_start
    LV               Start SSize  Start
    blocks_allocated     0      1     0
                         0      4     1
    blocks_allocated     1      1     5
                         0      4     6
    blocks_allocated     2      1    10
                         0      4    11
    blocks_allocated     3      1    15
                         0      4    16
    blocks_allocated     4      1    20
                         0 476917    21


how can i do this in reverse ?

when i specify the physical extend to be added, it works - but when is
specifcy the physical extent to be removed,
the last one is being removed but not the specified one.

see here for example - i wanted to remove extent number 10 like i did
add it, but instead extent number 20
is being removed

root@s740:~# lvresize mytestVG/blocks_allocated -l -1 /dev/sdb:10
    Ignoring PVs on command line when reducing.
    WARNING: Reducing active logical volume to 4.00 MiB.
    THIS MAY DESTROY YOUR DATA (filesystem etc.)
Do you really want to reduce mytestVG/blocks_allocated? [y/n]: y
    Size of logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated changed from 5.00
MiB (5 extents) to 4.00 MiB (4 extents).
    Logical volume mytestVG/blocks_allocated successfully resized.

root@s740:~# pvs --segments
-olv_name,seg_start_pe,seg_size_pe,pvseg_start  -O pvseg_start
    LV               Start SSize  Start
    blocks_allocated     0      1     0
                         0      4     1
    blocks_allocated     1      1     5
                         0      4     6
    blocks_allocated     2      1    10
                         0      4    11
    blocks_allocated     3      1    15
                         0 476922    16


how can i remove extent number 10 ?

is this a bug ?

Well, if the LV is being used for anything real, then I don't know of
anything where you could remove a block in the middle and still have a
working fs.   You can only reduce fs'es (the ones that you can reduce)
by reducing off of the end and making it smaller.

It makes zero sense to be able to remove a block in the middle of a LV
used by just about everything that uses LV's as nothing supports being
able to remove a block in the middle.

What is your use case that you believe removing a block in the middle
of an LV needs to work?

Now if you really need to remove a specific block in the middle of the
LV then you are likely going to need to use pvmove with specific
blocks to replace those blocks with something else.

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