On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 3:12 PM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab
>> From a practical standpoint, the Ubuntu folks have the original tvtime
>> tarball and all their changes in one patch, which is clearly a bunch
>> of patches that are mashed together probably in their build system. I
>> need to reach out to them to find where they have an actual SCM tree
>> or the individual patches. They've got a bunch of patches which would
>> be good to get into a single tree (autobuild fixes, cross-compilation,
>> locale updates, etc).
> Yeah, it seems interesting. Maybe we can get something from this place:
> The maintainer there seems to be:
I reached out to the Ubuntu maintainer; we'll see if he gets back to
me. From what I can tell it seems like Debian is actually taking the
patches from Ubuntu (yes, I realize this is backwards from their
typical process where Ubuntu bases their stuff on Debian).
>> In the long term I have no real issue with the LinuxTV group being the
>> official maintainer of record. I've got lots of ideas and things I
>> would like to do to improve tvtime, but in practice I've done a pretty
>> crappy job of maintaining the source (merging patches, etc) at this
> Putting it on a common place and giving permissions to a group of people
> is interesting, as none of us are focused on userspace, so we all
> have a very limited amount of time for dealing with userspace applications.
> By giving commit rights to a group of developers, it ends that more
> developers will contribute, speeding up the development.
> That was what happened with v4l-utils and, on a minor scale, with xawtv3.
> If you're ok with that, I can set a tvtime git repository at LinuxTV,
> cloning the tree I've created there already (it is a pure conversion
> of your tree from mercurial into git, if I remove the patches I've
> done so far from your clone), giving you the ownership of the new tree,
> and marking it as a shared repository.
I have no problem with this. Let's set it up.
> I have already all set there to allow shared access to the repository
> (in opposite to -hg, git works really cool with shared repositories).
I actually haven't hosted any git repos on linuxtv.org before. I'm
assuming my ssh public key got copied over from when I was hosting hg
> We can later add permissions to the developers interested on helping
> the tvtime maintenance that you agree to add.
As said earlier, Kernel Labs never really wanted to be the maintainer
for tvtime - we did it because nobody else wanted to (and vektor never
responded to emails I sent him offering to help). That said, a
community oriented approach is probably the best for everybody
I'll probably be looking in the next couple of weeks to write some
fresh content for a tvtime website. The stuff on
tvtime.sourceforge.net is so dated almost none of it still applies.
Devin J. Heitmueller - Kernel Labs
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