On 09/24/2011 05:58 AM, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:

Hi Mauro
Thank you for your comments. Please refer to the answers below.
Em 22-09-2011 12:13, Marek Szyprowski escreveu:
Hello Mauro,

I've collected pending selection API patches together with pending
videobuf2 and Samsung driver fixes to a single git branch. Please pull
them to your media tree.


Marek Szyprowski (1):
       staging: dt3155v4l: fix build break

I've applied this one previously, from the patch you sent me.


Tomasz Stanislawski (6):
       v4l: add support for selection api
       v4l: add documentation for selection API

I need more time to review those two patches. I'll probably do it at the next 
week.
I generally start analyzing API changes based on the DocBook, so, let me point 
a few
things I've noticed on a quick read, at the vidioc-g-selection.html 
DocBook-generated page:

1) "The coordinates are expressed in driver-dependant units"

Why? coordinates should be expressed in pixels, as otherwise there's no way to
use this API on a hardware-independent way.
The documentation for existing cropping API contains following sentence:

"To support a wide range of hardware this specification does not define an origin or units."

I decided to follow the same convention for the selection API.
I thought that the only exception would be images in memory buffers, whose coordinated would be pixels.

However, as Laurent mentioned, some devices are capable of sub-pixel cropping. Moreover, there are image exotic formats that have no well-defined resolution (fractal or vector graphics). Now I am still not sure if the requirement for resolution in pixels should be used any more. The problem is that this requirement is very intuitive and useful in "let's say" 95% of cases.


2)
     0 - driver is free to adjust size, it is recommended to choose the 
crop/compose rectangle as close as possible to the original one

     SEL_SIZE_GE - driver is not allowed to shrink the rectangle. The original 
rectangle must lay inside the adjusted one

     SEL_SIZE_LE - drive is not allowed to grow the rectangle. The adjusted 
rectangle must lay inside the original one

     SEL_SIZE_GE | SEL_SIZE_LE - choose size exactly the same as in desired 
rectangle.

The macro names above don't match the definition, as they aren't prefixed by 
V4L2_.
ok.. I will fix it.

3) There was no hyperlink for the struct v4l2_selection, as on other API 
definitions.
ok.. I will fix it.

4) the language doesn't seem too consistent with the way other ioctl's are 
defined. For example,
you're using struct::field for a field at the struct. Other parts of the API just say 
"field foo of struct bar".
ok.. I will fix it.

5) There's not a single mention at the git commit or at the DocBook about why 
the old crop API
is being deprecated. You need to convince me about such need (ok, I followed a 
few discussions in
the past, but, my brain patch buffer is shorter than the 7000 patchwork patches 
I reviewed just on
this week). Besides that: do we really need to obsolete the crop API for TV 
cards? If so, why? If not,
you need to explain why a developer should opt between one ioctl set of the 
other.

There are a few reasons to drop support for the cropping ioctls.

First, the selection API covers existing crop API. Therefore there is no need to implement {S/G}_CROP and G_CROPCAP. The {S/G}_SELECTION is enough to provide the same functionality. We should avoiding duplication inside the api, therefore S_CROP should be dropped.

Second, there is a patch that adds simulation of old crop API using selection API. Therefore there is no need to change code of the existing applications.

Third, the selection is much more powerful API, and it could be extended in future. There no more reserved fields inside structures used by current cropping api. Moreover cropping is very inconsistent. For output devices cropping into display actually means composing into display. Moreover it not possible to select only the part of the image from the buffer to be inserted or filled by the hardware. The selection API introduced the idea of the constraints flags, that are used for precise control of the coordinates' rounding policy.

I could split commit 'v4l: add documentation for selection API' into two commits. One that deprecates S_CROP, and another one that introduces selection.


6) You should add a note about it at hist-v4l2.html page, stating what 
happened, and why a new crop
ioctl set is needed.
ok.. I missed it. Sorry.

7) You didn't update the Experimental API Elements or the Obsolete API Elements 
at the hist-v4l2.html
ok.. I missed it. Sorry.

Thanks,
Mauro

Thank again for your comments.
I hope that my answers will convince you to the selection API.

Best regards,
Tomasz Stanislawski

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