On 16-03-13 16:13, Dmitry Katsubo wrote:
On 15.03.2013 13:07, Oliver Schinagl wrote:
On 698 MHz we have NTS1 (Bouquet 2) which is on a code rate of 1/2.
Still I cannot make them working. More exactly:

This works (722 MHz):
xine "dvb://Nederland 1"
xine "dvb://Nederland 2"
xine "dvb://Nederland 3"

These do not (522 MHz and 698 MHz):
xine "dvb://Nickelodeon"
xine "dvb://RTL 4"
...

I don't 522 or 698 MHz, RTL4 is on 768 MHz here in Eindhoven.

Try scanning with w_scan; wscan tells you exactly where what exactly is. It can produce an inital scanning file. Send me and I'll fix it up for you.
Thanks for hint. I have tried w_scan, it also does not show the signal level:

    tune to: QAM_AUTO f = 722000 kHz I999B8C999D999T999G999Y999
    (time: 04:48)   service = Nederland 1 (Digitenne)
            service = Nederland 2 (Digitenne)
            service = Nederland 3 (Digitenne)
            service = TV West (Digitenne)
            service = Radio West (Digitenne)
            service = Radio 1 (Digitenne)
            service = Radio 2 (Digitenne)
            service = 3FM (Digitenne)
            service = Radio 4 (Digitenne)
            service = Radio 5 (Digitenne)
            service = Radio 6 (Digitenne)
            service = FunX (Digitenne)
            new transponder:
               (QAM_64   f = 546000 kHz I999B8C12D0T8G4Y0) 0x405A
            new transponder:
               (QAM_64   f = 490000 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G4Y0) 0x405A
            new transponder:
               (QAM_64   f = 474000 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G4Y0) 0x405A
            updating transponder:
               (QAM_64   f = 474000 kHz I999B8C23D0T8G4Y0) 0x405A
            to (QAM_64   f = 474000 kHz I999B8C12D0T8G4Y0) 0x405A
            new transponder:
               (QAM_64   f = 506000 kHz I999B8C12D0T8G4Y0) 0x405A

I attach my channels.conf, generated by "scan" utility. It looks to be complete.
It can be the case the signal is better on 722 MHz... Could you share
your channels.conf? Are there any specific options you pass to scan
utility? But it's likely I need to buy better antenna. Can scan utility
show the signal level?
Try tzap to tune to a channel, depending on your driver, it should output some rudimentary signal strength.
tzap shows something in column "signal" but it is so cryptic:
Yes, signal strenght isn't the best to read, but let it run for a little bit. Your ber isn't great but you have unc's UNC = Unrecoverable Error. This can usually be seen on screen or heard. unc should be 0 for 'perfect' image. So it looks like a bad signal reception to me, which could be the reason you are not receiving everything.

    $ tzap -c channels.conf "Nederland 1"
    using '/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0' and '/dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0'
    reading channels from file 'channels.conf'
    tuning to 722000000 Hz
    video pid 0x1b63, audio pid 0x1b64
    status 0f | signal 8f7d | snr 006e | ber 001fffff | unc 0000010a |
    status 1f | signal 8e9f | snr 007b | ber 000a5010 | unc 0000000c |
    FE_HAS_LOCK
    status 1f | signal 8e2e | snr 0078 | ber 00084ed0 | unc 00000005 |
    FE_HAS_LOCK

Signal is indeed important, Remember that RTL4 etc are all encrypted and need a hardware cam or softcam (oscam) to properly work.
Now I see! What channels are open? For example, are "Nickelodeon" and "Investigation Discovery" opened? What about radio (BBC/Radio West/...)?
Nou, only Boequet 1 is Free to Air, that is NL1, NL2, NL3 and Omroep West in your case. The rest is all encrypted!

I have found a description about how to watch encrypted DVB-T broadcasts in the Netherlands <https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Digitenne> and also good oscam tips <http://openpli.org/wiki/OScam>. The first one reads that I need smartreader + Digitenne smartcard. I see that smartcards are sold on marktplaats for €10 <http://www.marktplaats.nl/z/audio-tv-en-foto/smartcard-digitenne.html?query=smartcard+digitenne&categoryId=31&numberOfResultsPerPage=100>. Digitenne claims that there are these channels available:

but I don't see even half of them in my channels list. In general that's is a big challenge to make it running on Linux. Perhaps buying a receiver is easier. Have you any experience?
Answering this off list, as its too offtopic.

Thanks!
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With best regards,
Dmitry

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