Linux-Misc Digest #493, Volume #18 Wed, 6 Jan 99 16:13:14 EST
Contents:
Re: Joystick in Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Quotas (Bob Hauck)
x2vnc (Ed Gatzke)
Re: Netscape eats up *all* the swap (Stephen Anthony)
Re: Win95 long filenames (Brian McCauley)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: automatic startx under SuSE 5.3? (Bill Unruh)
Re: Start Linux from within windoze?? (Codifex Maximus)
Re: Using C++ with RedHat 5.2? ("seiun")
Re: Vietnamese keyboard map for Linux and XFree86 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Single Floppy Linux on HD-less PC ?? (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Mat=EDas?= Orchard V.)
Re: Anti-Linux FUD (Matthew Kirkwood)
Re: Eudora for Linux is a good idea (Robert Outlaw)
Re: Install problem - Redhat Linux on Maxtor HD (Codifex Maximus)
Linux on iDot computers? (Jason Taverner)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Joystick in Linux
Date: 5 Jan 1999 20:20:32 -0500
Brady Bonnette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hi all! I have a question that hopefully someone out there knows the
: answer to.
: Ok, Im wanting to get my joystick set up in Linux (kernel 2.0.35). The
: joystick is a PantherXL (made by MadCatz), but the only downside right
: now I can see is that the joystick has 17 buttons. =( Im wanting to
: use it for GLQuake and GLQuakeWorld. How would one go about installing
: ANYTHING for a joystick? hehe
The joystick driver that comes with 2.0.35 is only compatible with analog
joysticks. The PantherXL, along with the Microsoft Sidewinder are digital
joysticks and require a different module to be loaded. You can find the
module at the following URL.
http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~vojtech/joystick/
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Quotas
Date: 6 Jan 1999 18:41:14 GMT
In article <76tj67$lf1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Jay D Ribak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> user quota exceeded and such). Repquota presents the proper info about
> those users when I run it. The only thing that ISN'T working is the user
> 'quota' command. When I run the command as one of the users, it says User
> quotas for username (uid xxx): none. Obviously this is false, as there IS
Is /usr/bin/quota SUID to root?
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From: Ed Gatzke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: x2vnc
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 13:39:34 -0500
I have had trouble compiling x2vnc on RedHat 5.0 and Solaris. 2.6,2.7
(I intend to upgrade to 5.2 this weekend and try again).
Where can I get an x2vnc rpm? Does anyone have it running on Solaris? A
binary of either would be great as I often have compile problems.
BTW- vnc is a great program. I want to try running x2vnc so I can use a
laptop (and/or an old pc) for a big multihead display without a ton of
hassle. I have had some problems getting IE to run the vnc java client,
but I just assume IE has a garbage java implementation.
Thanks for any help-
Ed
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Chemical Engineering, University of Delaware
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Anthony)
Subject: Re: Netscape eats up *all* the swap
Date: 5 Jan 1999 18:38:37 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) writes:
>In article <76onp1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Floyd Davidson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[snip]
>>>I've found all versions of Netscape to be pigs. :(
[snipped]
>Hmm... If that doesn't shout 'pig'... BTW, what are reasons to
>use it? I'm really curious and it's not a trolling. For what
>I've seen the thing is memory-,CPU- and IO-thirsty, makes a
>poorest newsreader (weaker than telnet new.foo.org nntp and
>about equally efficient), allows HTML in email and news,
>is buggy as hell (wake me up when lynx will die with SIGBUS)...
>It's, erm, editor is dumber than even pico. It looks like
>a fundamentally non-UNIXish program - monolitic, heavy-weight,
>inflexible... What makes people use the sucker?
Because for now there's nothing else to replace it. I know lynx may be
faster/smaller, etc, but its not point & click. Besides, Netscape has some useful
plugins, and you can't view some sites without them.
Don't get me wrong, I think Netscape is crap. I'm just waiting for Opera to be
ported in the next 5-6 months :)
Steve
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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win95 long filenames
Date: 05 Jan 1999 18:53:46 +0000
To: pleriche@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Philip Le Riche)
Subject: Re: Win95 long filenames
References: <76tgvb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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pleriche@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Philip Le Riche) writes:
> I understand the DOS file system can support long file names, but using
> a different scheme from win95.
When you say the "DOS file system" do you mean "the Linux UMSDOS
filesystem"? UMSDOS is a Unix-like filesystem that runs over FAT.
> I'd really like to use linux to backup my win95 partition to exabyte
> tape (my drive not supported by ezscsi) but without lfn support it
> wouldn't be very useful.
So mount it using the VFAT filesystem.
> Is anyone working on it?
Working on what? VFAT? No I think that's stable now. VFAT/UMSDOS
hybrid? Dunno. Could be useful but I can't see why you'd need it in
this case.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: 06 Jan 1999 18:41:04 +0000
"Richard Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> So `host' is not even as good as ifconfig, never mind better.
>
> 'cat /proc/net/devices' (or is it 'cat
> /proc/net/raw_something_or_other', sorry I am work with no access to
> a Linux system...?)
You'll have to be clearer, I can't find anything in my /proc/net which
gives interface addresses.
Supposing there is such a file, though, it won't work if /proc isn't
mounted (or indeed not compiled in at all, though whether it's still
practical to do that is something I don't know), and will only work on
a Linux system. A pretty second-rate solution.
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http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: automatic startx under SuSE 5.3?
Date: 6 Jan 1999 06:20:18 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) writes:
>I'm running SuSE 5.3 and have been trying to figure out how to get
>-one- of my userids to come up and do an automatic startx.
>I tried putting "startx" at the bottom of my .profile, and although it
>comes up, there is a message in the xterm saying that the X server is
>already running; the xterm then closes itself. fvwm2 continues to
>work, but I'd like it to come up cleanly.
If you are already running X why do you want to ask it to run X again?
If you log onot that user from the console, I assume X comes up fine. (I
assume you are not running xdm, or again why are you trying to start X
again?
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From: Codifex Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Start Linux from within windoze??
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:46:21 -0600
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> Due to my school's policy regarding "other" OS's, I'm fighting to have Linux
> installed on three lab computers coexisting with NT. They are concerned
> about possible support issues which may mess up the NT side of things, and
> don't want a dual boot situation where "regular" students inadvertantly get
> into the wrong system.
>
> My question is ... can I use loadlin or something else to boot Linux out of
> a command line prompt in WinNT?
>
> Or does someone know of a good setup for a dual boot which might make Linux
> available at the press of a button somewhere in the process??? (I know
> nothing about what NT has in the way of boot managers.)
>
> TIA,
>
> Kenward
> --
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> Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
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You could just use a bootdisk.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>Due to my school's policy regarding "other" OS's,
I'm fighting to have Linux
<BR>installed on three lab computers coexisting with NT. They are
concerned
<BR>about possible support issues which may mess up the NT side of things,
and
<BR>don't want a dual boot situation where "regular" students inadvertantly
get
<BR>into the wrong system.
<P>My question is ... can I use loadlin or something else to boot Linux
out of
<BR>a command line prompt in WinNT?
<P>Or does someone know of a good setup for a dual boot which might make
Linux
<BR>available at the press of a button somewhere in the process???
(I know
<BR>nothing about what NT has in the way of boot managers.)
<P>TIA,
<P>Kenward
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You could just use a bootdisk.
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From: "seiun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using C++ with RedHat 5.2?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 06:39:09 GMT
> Then, run the executable file "helloworld" ...
Or ./helloworld. Small point, but it threw me off for awhile.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Vietnamese keyboard map for Linux and XFree86
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 06:31:41 GMT
Please note that there is a minus sign in the link and the link was broken at
that sign.
"http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Foothills/4480/Vietnamese-
Linux/vnlinux.html"
Thanks,
Le Hong Boi
In article <76pl0o$521$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Files can be downloaded at
> http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Foothills/4480/Vietnamese-
> Linux/vnlinux.html.
> Thanks,
> Le Hong Boi
>
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mat=EDas?= Orchard V. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Single Floppy Linux on HD-less PC ??
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:48:02 -0400
HAL91 is the answer.
luck & regards,
MATIAS O.
Douglas I-Hsi Chen escribi=F3:
> Hi there,
>
> For you Linux gurus. I'd like to know if there's a tiny distribution o=
f
> Linux which can run happily on a floppy disk(s) on a machine without a =
HD?
> I've recently moved all HDs from my old PC to the newer one but still w=
ish
> to run Linux and telnet to the newer PC at the old one. I've looked in=
to
> several "single floppy Linux" web sites, but found no mention about thi=
s
> specification. Maybe I didn't look hard enough, but please, if you kno=
w
> anything, I'd be interested to hear it.
>
> Thank you very much,
> Douglas
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ICQ: 460589
why reboot? use Linux.
Red Hat 5.2 ~ kernel 2.0.36 ~ KDE 1.0
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From: Matthew Kirkwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anti-Linux FUD
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 19:47:53 +0000
On 6 Jan 1999, Floyd Davidson wrote:
> >> MM suggests that formatting a formatted floppy in order to make a file
> >> system on it is pointless.
> >>
> >Worse than that, the formatting ioctl is root-only, isn't it?
> >That would make fdformat a strong candidate for /usr/sbin/
>
> If that were true, how would it make fdformat a candidate for
> an sbin directory?
Because it would be of no use to anyone but root.
fdformat performs a similar task to badblocks, which
gets an sbin mention on redhat, at least.
> However, it isn't true.
weejock@ferret:~$ cat /etc/redhat-release
release 5.1 (Manhattan)
weejock@ferret:~$ which fdformat
/usr/bin/fdformat
Matthew.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Outlaw)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Eudora for Linux is a good idea
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 06:41:03 GMT
On Wed, 8 Jul 1998 07:19:02 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sam Trenholme) wrote:
>>>Linux will remain in the hobbyist/techie niche that it now occupies.
>>
>>Is that necessarily a bad thing? :-)
>
>Yes. The less market share Linux has, the less likely it will be
>supported on new hardware, and the less muscle it will have to get people
>to support it.
Well, the direction Linux is going does have it remaining in the
hobbyist/techie niche. It just so happens that this niche can't
contain it, so GNU/Linux overflows to other niches, too.
The hobbyist/techie niche is an important niche because that's where
the work force, comlplete with a pragmatic drive to develop Free
Software, comes from. And everyone benefits from that niche.
The way it is working out, techie-friendly and user-friendly don't
have to be mutally exclusive. You can get an eas,GUI oriented install,
or stick with an install heavy on command line tools. Its your choice.
>
>Things like NeoMagic, Quake1/2, Voodoo chipset, the easy-to-use RedHat 5.1
>OS, and other Linux supported projects are only possible because people
>currently see Linux as a growth market.
GNU/Linux isn't a growth market anymore. Companies realize that most
GNU/Linux users are pretty tech savvy people. They give advice to
their friends on hardware and software purchases.
Let's say that you're a GNU/Linux user. A friend comes up to you with
ads for two similarly priced laptops and asks you which one is better.
Are you going to reccomend the laptop from the company that has
ignored repeated requests for hardware support for GNU/Linux? Or the
one from the company that's been willing to work with your fellow
GNU/Linux users.
I thought so. And this kind of thing happens a _lot_ more often than
you would think.
Mindshare is everything, customer loyalty in the hardware industry is
vital.
>
>- Sam
>
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my sixpence on the issue...
Robert
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From: Codifex Maximus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Install problem - Redhat Linux on Maxtor HD
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 13:56:57 -0600
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> I am trying to install Redhat Linux 5.2 for the first time on my box. I have
> two Maxtor HD. One is 1.6GB and the second is 7.0GB EIDE. Due to the
> limitation in the BIOS. I am able to use only 2GB of the 7.0GB. When, I
> tried to install Redhat Linux, the machine hangs after this following
> section:
>
> hdb: hdb: dma_intr: Status =0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
> hdb: dma_intr error=0x04 { DriveStatus Error }
>
> It goes through fine for the 1.6GB (hda)
> Model of 7.0GB : Maxtor EIDE 90720D5 (Ultra DMA Mode 2)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Regards
> Magesh.
>
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I think you were given a MaxBlast floppy with your harddrive. I didn't have to
use mine but there may be some tools on it that could help. The best thing to
do, though, would be to upgrade your BIOS (i.e. get a new motherboard). The BIOS
is having a hard time identifying your HD; you HD should be identified by the
BIOS as using a UDMA mode or something other than CylHdSec translation mode.
It's time to upgrade the motherboard.
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>I am trying to install Redhat Linux 5.2 for the first
time on my box. I have
<BR>two Maxtor HD. One is 1.6GB and the second is 7.0GB EIDE.
Due to the
<BR>limitation in the BIOS. I am able to use only 2GB of the 7.0GB.
When, I
<BR>tried to install Redhat Linux, the machine hangs after this following
<BR>section:
<P>hdb: hdb: dma_intr: Status =0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest
Error }
<BR>hdb: dma_intr error=0x04 { DriveStatus Error }
<P>It goes through fine for the 1.6GB (hda)
<BR>Model of 7.0GB : Maxtor EIDE 90720D5 (Ultra DMA Mode 2)
<P>Any suggestions?
<P>Regards
<BR>Magesh.
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I think you were given a MaxBlast floppy with your harddrive.
I didn't have to use mine but there may be some tools on it that could
help. The best thing to do, though, would be to upgrade your BIOS
(i.e. get a new motherboard). The BIOS is having a hard time identifying
your HD; you HD should be identified by the BIOS as using a UDMA mode or
something other than CylHdSec translation mode.
<P>It's time to upgrade the motherboard.
<PRE>--
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I tried to drown my problems but they can swim!
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From: Jason Taverner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Linux on iDot computers?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 15:40:23 -0500
I'm looking for a really cheap disposable machine to putter around with
Linux on. iDot computers look plenty cheap. But I have no idea how
well suited they are.
Can anyone inform me? Thanks in advance.
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