Linux-Misc Digest #628, Volume #18 Fri, 15 Jan 99 16:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: Netscape, print current page errors (Gary Momarison)
Re: rights on dos-partition (zentara)
Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND idiot-friendly?
(Larry)
Fetchmail Stops Fetching: Why? (Jerry Gardner)
Printing Problems ("A J Wilson")
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Craig Kelley)
Re: ?? BIOS-Info (cooling FAN etc..) (Gary Momarison)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (Alexander Viro)
Re: Redhat 5.2 and cable modem configuration (Norman Jordan)
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
question: learning SQL on Linux (Doug Sanderson)
Re: Netscape 4.5 & Acroread 3.02. . . (Michael Kelly)
[Q]: Setting up partitions and filesystem (����)
Testing Netscape Communicator 4.07 (Peter Rodriguez)
GTK+ 1.1.x question ("Kerry J. Cox")
New functionality in timesheets, timetracking, and project management for Linux
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Lilo Config ("User")
XFee86 and the SiS 530 chipset problem (Jerry)
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape, print current page errors
Date: 15 Jan 1999 11:53:16 -0800
Michael Gens <"Michael.Gens"@TU- Berlin.DE> writes:
> Hi there!
>
> Almost every time I click print button to print a
>
> certain page (with different contents) the following message window
> appears:
>
> Netscape: subprocess diagnostics (stdout/stderr)
> lpr: stdin: empty input file
Sounds like a bad print command in the print form. Probably not using "%s".
Try something like "lpr %s".
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (zentara)
Subject: Re: rights on dos-partition
Reply-To: ""
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:00:44 GMT
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 17:57:23 +1100, Chris MacKenzie
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Konstantin Seiler wrote:
>
>> When I mount my Win-Dos partition only Root can write on it. but I'd like to
>> allow it to other users, too. How can I change this?
>
>Try something similar to this in /etc/fstab
>
>/dev/hda5 /mnt/win95 vfat
>exec,dev,suid,rw,conv=auto,uid=500,gid=500,perm=777 0 0
>
>you will of course need to change the /dev/hda5 to whatever your win95
>partition is and you will also need to change the default gid and uid to
>match the user's.
Another option is to use the option umask=0 in mount:
like:
mount -t vfat -o umask=0 /dev/hda2 /C
or just put umask =0 in your fstab
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Larry)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: This is Linux, not Windows, so why not superior flexibility AND
idiot-friendly?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Jan 1999 19:56:27 GMT
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 07:34:24 GMT, MalkContent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>So Far, here, as with so many other posts on relative M$ Vs. Linux,
>I've seen all sorts of bitching, moaning, and crying
>(as well as the well thought out defense of...)
>about "idiot friendly"
>
>I MUST BE THAT IDIOT
>
>Since the demise of commercially available Dos - based software,
>I have been stuck with adjusting to Windoze.
>
>I don`t have a really snazzy job, I work in a warehouse.
>I however am a consumer. I buy things I can use.
>
>Having just bought RedHat 5.2, I thought I was going to shit a horse!
>
>This stuff is user tolerant. That's it.
>(unless of course you're one of the tech-elite...cos this discussion keeps
>degrading into elitist convo.)
>
>aIts a pain in the backside to mount then unmount a CDROM.
>even though it looks like :
> mount dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom/blahblahblah
Put the cdrom in /etc/fstab:
/dev/cdrom /cdrom iso9660 ro,user,unhide
then: mkdir /cdrom
then all you have to do is:
'mount /cdrom' and 'umount /cdrom'
Nothing hard about that.
you can even write a little script for each one of these if that's
too much typing for you. Name 'em cdin and cdout or even ci and co
or just m and u.
then all you would have to do is type m to mount and u to umount.
That's less keystrokes than is needed to access the cdrom under dos.
Use your imagination.
>Most users probably agree that that's a whole bunch of extra effort.
>If Linux is so great as described, why's it so painful for the john doe to use?
It's not. There is just a larger learning curve for Linux, but once you get
the hang of it, it's a lot nicer to use than winnders.
You can do damned near anything you want in Linux, it's just a matter of
knowing the OS.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jerry Gardner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Fetchmail Stops Fetching: Why?
Date: 14 Jan 1999 21:48:54 GMT
I'm running Fetchmail 4.3.9 on a Debian 2.0.2 system (2.0.36
kernel). I have it running in daemon mode polling every 15 minutes
(set daemon 900 in my .fetchmailrc file). It's started by root at
system startup time.
Fetchmail runs fine for a few days, and then stops. The fetchmail
process is still there, but it never fetches any more mail. It won't
fetch any more mail even if I wake it up by running 'fetchmail' on the
command line.
If I kill it (fetchmail --quit) and restart it, it will immediately
fetch a bunch of waiting mail. It will then continue to work for a few
more days and then stop working again.
Has anyone seen this problem? Is there a fix?
--
Jerry Gardner | Bill Clinton has all the steely resolve of
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | a kamikaze pilot on his 37th mission.
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From: "A J Wilson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Printing Problems
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 1999 06:52:23 +1100
Hi
I am try to configure a laser printer (Canon LBP-8MarkIIIR) to work under
Redhat 5.1. I used Print Tool under XWindows to add the printer. It seems
to print plain text and graphics okay from my Windows 95 computers, however
when I print from Linux the text comes out in landscape orientation instead
of portrait. How do I change the orientation in Linux?
Also when I try to print a postscript document the printer beeps a number of
times and garbage gets printed out. The printer is not a postscript printer
but I thought that Linux could change postscript to normal printer language
so that it could be printed on a non postscript printer. How can I set it
up?
Regards
Austin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Craig Kelley)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 13:03:33 -0700
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
->Want to play quake and make it look like glass, get a wintel with all
->the tricks and have at you! Or wait 6 mos to a year for Linux ports
->to be written by benevolent souls who take their spare time and write
->this stuff. Don't expect the guys at ID to have a Linux crew hard at
->work, they have their hands full trying to get Quake to load with a
->640k barrier.
While I agree with your post for the most part, the truth is that the
Linux version of Quake III is going to be released on the same day as
the Windows and Mac versions.
--
The wheel is turning but the hamster is dead.
Craig Kelley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.isu.edu/~kellcrai finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP block
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ?? BIOS-Info (cooling FAN etc..)
Date: 15 Jan 1999 12:05:52 -0800
Christian Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> are there any programs to watch some bios-values like
> Processor-Temperature or cooling fan rotation speed ??
Try
<A HREF="http://www.netroedge.com/~lm78/">
Linux System Hardware Monitoring</A>
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro)
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: 15 Jan 1999 15:04:19 -0500
In article <77o579$pmj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <77nkhf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote:
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joseph Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >Alexander Viro wrote:
>> >> In article <77mfvs$bec$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >Listen...I was playing around with DEC Unix in 1979. That clearly is not
>> >> Hmm... Early Ultrix? IIRC it appeared somewhere around '81-'82.
>Some
>> >> ancestor? Or you mean 3BSD?
[snip]
>Not sure what you are saying here. By the way, I didn't mean to imply that
D'oh.
a) Probably you had a VAX (turned out to be right).
b) There were DEC Unices (i.e. modified and sold by DEC) but I never heard
about one that would go back to '79.
c) I was (and still am) curious on that point.
That's it.
>the Unix BELONGED to DEC. Or even that they delivered the machine with Unix
>installed. I can't say for sure but I think it was BSD. WTF, I was only a
Looks most likely...
>freshman and it was the first 'puter I ever laid eyes on. Purdue retired the
>last of those machines (11/780s) a few years back. And just because DEC
Pity. Hope they went to good hands.
>doesn't like it doesn't mean you can't run BSD on a VAX. So shoot me for not
*Sure* you can. You couldn't run 3BSD (heck, 4.2BSD) on anything else,
IIRC.
>remembering which flavor of Unix; it sure as hell LOOKED and ACTED like Unix.
If it was BSD it was *the* UNIX. AT&T line began its degradation about
that time. OK, it was before Missed'em'Five, indeed, but...
--
"You're one of those condescending Unix computer users!"
"Here's a nickel, kid. Get yourself a better computer" - Dilbert.
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From: Norman Jordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.2 and cable modem configuration
Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1999 21:51:41 GMT
Steve Sanyal wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been trying to set up my Rogers Wave @home service with Linux 5.2,
> which I just installed on my system earlier this week. I am very new to
> UNIX and Linux - I'm currently learning UNIX in a course at university.
>
> The HOWTO docs appear to describe the setup for a static IP setup, but I
> know that Rogers uses DHCP these days. I suspect that the document is from
> an earlier time, but this has left me a bit confused.
>
> I have set up my DHCP client in Linuxconfig and I originally set it up when
> I installed Linux. That worked fine. In Windows NT (my other operating
> system), all I had to do was say that my DHCP would assign an IP address,
> and it took care of the rest. I have a device called eth0, which has set up
> my ethernet card, and it is activated (as I can see in the network
> configuration parameters in Xfree86).
>
> However, I cannot connect to the net. I've tried setting up the IP address,
> the default gateway and subnet mask (which I obtained using the ipconfig
> program in Windows NT) manually as well when Netscape didn't work, and it
> hasn't made a difference.
>
> I set my hostname value to CRxxxxxx-A which is the same hostname I use in
> Windows NT. Netscape simply says that any address I enter does not have a
> DNS entry, which I realize means my TCP/IP has not been set up correctly.
>
> I'd really like to get this up and running, as well as my mail account, so I
> can start using Linux more regularly. Are there any good sites that would
> be a useful guide to a novice such as myself? I also want to make sure that
> I don't leave my computer open to hackers!
>
> Thanks
>
> Steve
I use Shaw@Home. I am also using RedHat 5.2. You will need dhcpcd-0.70,
fortunately I think that RedHat 5.2 comes with this. Edit the file
/etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup and change the line
/sbin/dhcpcd -c /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifdhcpc-done ${DEVICE}
to
/sbin/dhcpcd -h 'CRxxxxxx-A' -c /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifdhcpc-done
${DEVICE}
You can then either reboot or type in the new line in an xterm. Everything
should work just fine then, mail, newsgroups, the @Home Site, the rest of the
internet.
--
Norman Jordan -- Electrical Engineering Student
The Linux Resource Center
http://members.home.net/2817628153/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 19:34:01 GMT
In article <77nkhf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alexander Viro) wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joseph Crowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Alexander Viro wrote:
> >> In article <77mfvs$bec$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> >Listen...I was playing around with DEC Unix in 1979. That clearly is not
> >> Hmm... Early Ultrix? IIRC it appeared somewhere around '81-'82.
Some
> >> ancestor? Or you mean 3BSD?
> > Remember that UNIX was created on a PDP 11 by the guys at Bell Labs....
>
> First of all, s/11/-7 and later -11/. Then, AT&T ain't DEC. And
> original line bloody wasn't a 'DEC UNIX', by any account. DEC was not amused
> by UNIX existance. They had their own OSes for -11 (R*-11 family). DEC was
> *extremely* not amused by existance of BSD, since they considered VAXen as
> their main product (in -11 times it was -10). BTW, the rest of David's
> posting clearly implies VAXen, so the original line is completely out of
> question.
>
Not sure what you are saying here. By the way, I didn't mean to imply that
the Unix BELONGED to DEC. Or even that they delivered the machine with Unix
installed. I can't say for sure but I think it was BSD. WTF, I was only a
freshman and it was the first 'puter I ever laid eyes on. Purdue retired the
last of those machines (11/780s) a few years back. And just because DEC
doesn't like it doesn't mean you can't run BSD on a VAX. So shoot me for not
remembering which flavor of Unix; it sure as hell LOOKED and ACTED like Unix.
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From: Doug Sanderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: question: learning SQL on Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:47:54 -0800
I'm a C/Unix programmer, and I need to learn SQL. It would also be good
for me
to learn the C/C++ interface to SQL. I see Informix will run on Linux,
but its
apparently only free for a 30 day trial period. I also see lots of
software at
http://www.cs.cuhk.hk/pub/Linux/apps/database/sql. I'm running Redhat
4.2
on a laptop (Sony PCG-812, 233 mhz, 4 gig, 64meg ram). I'm a little
intimidated
at the thought of being my own database administrator. What would you
suggest?
--
Doug Sanderson
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
homepage: http://www.halcyon.com/dcs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Kelly)
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.5 & Acroread 3.02. . .
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:58:31 -0500
On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 22:43:30 -0600, Norvell Spearman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Has anyone gotten the acroread plugin to work with Netscape 4.5? Every
>time I try viewing a pdf file using Netscape 4.5 and the plugin supplied
>by acroread, Communicator pukes on the rug and I get a core dump.
>Thanks for any help with this.
As an alternative there's a small freeware called xpdf that's fine for browsing
pdf files(and converting to other formats like PostScript) avail. You could
set it up as a helper app. I think it's only about 300K for the browser. If you
use a search engine you should find it quite easilly(sorry not in Linux now so
I don't have the URL)
Mike
"Genius gives birth, talent delivers."
- Jack Kerouac
(remove NOSPAM from address, if present, to reply)
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From: ���� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q]: Setting up partitions and filesystem
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 17:56:48 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Greetings:
I am preparing to install linux on the second drive of my NT 4 system.
I'd like to clarify a few points before I proceed.
1) In several manuals I have read, I have come across advice to set up
indiv partitions and filesystems for seperate directories (i.e. one for
/ seperate one for /usr and maybe for /tmp....so on and so forth).
Little else is said. Can someone please either provide a more robust
explanation or point me to where to find more expanded info on this. How
much space should be allocated for the base OS itself? Which filesystems
should be seperated out? Why? (One guide said: "It'll make things easier
when you upgrade." Nothing more)
2) I've seen conflicting reports as to the best way to have Linux and NT
co-exist in terms of intial boot-up. Some say use LILO others say stick
with the NT boot-up system. Any advice from anyone who DOES have both
these systems in a config similar to what I am attempting? How should I
modify either LILO or NT to provide the correct boot options?
Your assistance is appreciated!
(PS: I am installing SuSe 5.3. Just today I came across info stating
that there may be a bug in Yast - English version when it comes to disk
partitioning. Anyone know anything more about this? Thanx!)
--
"Mathematics is the foundation of all science and those who are
profficent in it become the builders of society."
The Honorable Ellijah Mohammed
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Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 10:16:38 +1300
From: Peter Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Testing Netscape Communicator 4.07
Having trouble with this app posting to newsgroups -
so just sending this (hopefully) to check it out.
--
Peter Rodriguez
136, Kolmar Road, Papatoetoe
Auckland, NEW ZEALAND
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From: "Kerry J. Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GTK+ 1.1.x question
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:48:13 +0000
Quick question. It seems that so many programs now are using GTK+
1.1.x However, I know that GIMP won't run using the 1.1 libraries. Is
there any simple way to have both my gtk+-1.0.6-3 rpm file and the
latest gtk+-1.1.2 rpm installed? I already tried to install the
earliest gtk+1.1 and then GIMP wouldn't run. Can I simply do a "rpm
-ivh gtk+-1.1....rpm" instead of a "rpm -Uvh gtk+1.1...rpm" and have
both installed?
Thanks.
KJ
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: New functionality in timesheets, timetracking, and project management for
Linux
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 20:51:50 GMT
Free software!!
Journyx, the only company offering commercially supported time & project
tracking applications for Linux, announces that its newest release,
JournyxTIME 2.2, contains enhanced project estimation, reporting, and client
billing capabilities.
Check us out...software absolutely FREE for 5 users or less, and very
reasonable, stable, and easy for larger installations. Customers include a
large # of fortune 100 firms.
Downloads available at http://www.journyx.com/wts
Bill Leake
Our product does all the following:
TIMESHEET
TIME TRACKING
PROJECT MANAGEMENT
ACTIVITY TRACKING
TIME BILLING
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From: "User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Lilo Config
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 11:13:16 -0800
Hi folks:
I installed win95 and RedHat Linux on my machine. It works great, except
when I boot up the computer, I have to type win95 to load windoz. How do I
change it to something else? Tried /etc/lilo.conf, but didn't work.
Any hints?
Thanks,
Franklin
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From: Jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: XFee86 and the SiS 530 chipset problem
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 1999 13:31:46 -0700
Hi all,
I am trying to get XFree86 running on my SiS 530 chipset. The video
inside the chip is a 64-bit 3D AGP Graphics Accelerator(6326??), but all
I get when I run startx is either a graphic screen that is all jumbled
or it dumps me back to the prompt. At this time the display is
trashed(nothing but funny character) and nothing is viewable. I have to
restart linux to get a viewable screen. I tried to SiS 6236, SiS AGP PRO
and SiS 5597 all with the same result. Everyhing else is working fine. I
have gone through most of the FAQs without any luck. Is there any
anybody I can get help from on this?
Thanks
jerry
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