Linux-Misc Digest #684, Volume #18 Mon, 18 Jan 99 21:13:07 EST
Contents:
Re: no ctrl-M in terminal (Frank Sweetser)
get your money back for Windows preinstalled ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Netscape eats up *all* the swap (Philip Brown)
PPP Kernel support (Ulf Swedin)
Re: help me choose license ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (jim)
Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class. (allacircle)
Re: Redhat 5.2 Runlevel 5 not working properly ("Steve Sanyal")
Re: how do i connect to the internet (basic question here) (John Hasler)
Re: Newbie: Can't Read CDROM properly ("Calvin Mitchell")
Re: CTRL-ALT-DEL (citizen)
Virtusertable error ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Hylafax, password (henk van der knaap)
Scanner setup using SANE/Redhat 5.2? ("Michael McAfee")
Re: Beowulf into the fold? ("Tom Emerson")
Re: Win 98 partition (Marcos Silva)
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From: Frank Sweetser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: no ctrl-M in terminal
Date: 18 Jan 1999 15:02:52 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > I've seen that too. This is caused by some daemons having the
> > /dev/console open, and because of that the tty driver does not get reset
> > when you log off.
> >
> > You could try: 'stty sane < /dev/tty1' and see if this helps.
> >
> > Villy
> >
> It works! but I don't understand why. I would expect it to work if you output
> something to the terminal. This command only seems to read from the terminal.
> How does it work?
the '<' bit causes the stty program's stdin to be closed, and /dev/tty1
opened as stdin. so, when stty goes off and performs the reset functions
on stdin, it goes to tty1 instead of the terminal it was run off of.
--
Frank Sweetser rasmusin at wpi.edu fsweetser at blee.net | PGP key available
paramount.ind.wpi.edu RedHat 5.2 kernel 2.2.0pre5ac1 i586 | at public servers
How do I type "for i in *.dvi do xdvi i done" in a GUI?
(Discussion in comp.os.linux.misc on the intuitiveness of interfaces.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.os.linux
Subject: get your money back for Windows preinstalled
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:53:24 GMT
Here's an incredible story of how one Linux user got their money
back for the Windows pre-installed on the laptop they bought.
http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html
It is based on the premise that the Microsoft Software License Agreement
allows you to return the software if you do not agree to its terms.
I have nothing to do with this, except I was told about the above
Web page and I think all Linux users should do the same. Good luck.
Do NOT reply to this posting. Because of spammers this email address
is only used for posting; mail to this account is never read.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Brown)
Subject: Re: Netscape eats up *all* the swap
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 06 Jan 1999 20:31:27 GMT
On 5 Jan 1999 13:37:56 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Philip Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:11:47 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>....
>>>I have 16 megs of real RAM and about 30 megs on my swap partition.
>>
>>reguardless of what you decide to run, this is a problem. These days, you
>>should always have at least 64 megs of swap space.
>
>Really? Two big compiles in parallel, heavy number-crunching, TeX, editing.
>16M RAM + 32M swap. Not even close to full. Oh, and diff between two large
>trees piped to bzip2. Also not the lightest thing in this world.
Those are heavy CPUwise. Most people have a bit more memory-hogging things
running nowadays.
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[trim the no-bots from my address to reply to me by email!]
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"initiating.. 'getting the hell out of here' maneouver" - Lennier, babylon5
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Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1999 16:20:00 +0100
From: Ulf Swedin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: PPP Kernel support
Hello,
I looked if I had support for PPP with # dmesg | less
And it turned out I didn't, som my manual (teach yourself linux in three
weeks..) said
I had to recompile the kernel. So I copied the files
kernel-source-2.0.36-07.i386.rpm
kernel-headers-2.0.36-07.i386.rpm
as well as
ncurses-devel-4.2-10.i386.rpm and
ncurses--4.2-10.i386.rpm
to the /usr/src/linux library.
But then when I tried to write # make mrproper, I got something like
bach command not found
The same when I tried #make menuconfig.
Would really appreciate any help with this! I'm a beginner with Linux,
and I would love to be able
to use it with the Internet. (I've worked a lot professionally with DOS
and Windows).
Thank you in advance,
Ulf
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: help me choose license
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1999 21:35:00 GMT
I wrote:
> There are arguments both ways on this, but I don't think they'd risk it.
> Even if they won in court they would take a huge PR hit.
David Steuber writes:
> Well, a company beginning with M lost a court to with Stac
> Electronics for stealing disk compression code. They are even bigger
> now. Where is Stac?
I have no idea, nor is it relevant. That was two corporations fighting
over legal arcana. A company that deliberately violated the GPL would be
shunned by the Linux community (I was asssuming we were talking about Linux
products). With free software as fashionably as it now is, they would
probably take a hit in the proprietary market that would wipe out any
advantages. Do you want to be the spokesperson who has to explain to the
press why your company is stealing software written by individuals in their
spare time and given to the community? And then there are the legal
expenses. They would be fighting teams of pro bono attorneys all the way
to the Supreme Court.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
From: jim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 19:53:16 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Alan Boyd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are aware, aren't you, that id released the source to Doom. The
> Linux version that is. AFAIK they have not released the DOS version of
> the code. When they released it, someone at id (Carmack? Romero?) said
> something like "We don't make any money from this, but it gives me a
> woody."
Dave Taylor, I think, though I don't have the file here; my
/usr/src/games/doom directory is on my home box, which is in bits on
the floor since my new K6-2/350 turned out DoA 8-(
Raven have (at last!) released source for Heretic and Hexen ... anybody
out there got it to compile yet? Doesn't look like it'd be difficult to
get something running under SVGAlib with a few bits cannibalised from
DooM ... Descent runs under Linux, too. People are slowly getting the
idea.
--
jim
--
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Love is delayed by essential engineering works.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: which distribution package do you recommend?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:53:41 GMT
red hat or suse. i think red hat is better for newbies while suse has a
better installation program.
joe lerch ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: On Mon, 18 Jan 1999 00:34:33 +0100, M. Wimmer wrote:
: >Hi!
: >
: >I collected some general information about linux on the internet, but I must
: >admit, that I am a 100% newbie in this field. I would like to "learn by
: >doing" about this powerful operating system.
: >Can you recommend a distribution package?
: >It should cost less than about 20 Euros.
: >It should be run off my second, smaller SCSI - HD (Controller NCR C810 is
: >supported).
: >It must support my Diamond Stealth 64 DRAM graphics card and Panasonic CR
: >581-M CD-ROM drive.
: >Maybe there is a package with a very comfortabel user interface?
: >I am a medium experienced USER of Windows 95.
: >
: I am a newbie also, using Redhat 5.1 & 5.2 and SuSe 5.3.
: I found SuSe a little easier to use, and the x servers that
: SuSE includes set up and work better than the Redhat
: distributions.
: Although RedHat gets all the publicity , I would recommend
: trying SuSe as well. http://www.suse.com - or
: you can get them from www.lsl.com or cheapbytes.com
: good luck
: (please remove "nospam" from email address)
--
--
Perry Fecteau
Milhouse Consortium
http://w3.nai.net/~perfecto
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From: allacircle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Linux is not even in Windows 9X's class.
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 15:01:42 -0500
if all you are doing is word processing then use VIM.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, 15 Jan 1999 14:51:17 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lou) wrote:
>
> <SNIP>Well, actually Linux made me upgrade to 64 Mb of RAM to make StarOffice
> run
> faster. Just a word processor ? MS word 6.0 was happy with my 32 MB (It ran on
> 16, as I remember). That's on a Pentium 120 machine.
<SNIP>
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From: "Steve Sanyal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Redhat 5.2 Runlevel 5 not working properly
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 01:28:21 GMT
>>execve failed for /etc/X11/X (error no 2)
>>_X11TransSocketUnixConnect:
>>Can't connect: error no: 111... giving up.
>>xinit: connection refused (error 111) unable to connect to X server
>>xinit: No such process (error no 3): server error.
>
>Nope. the error no 2 for X and the TransSocketUnixConnect error is
>when your video card is set up right. In XF86Setup, when I messed with
>my config, testing out my different X Server packages (and figuring
>out which worked [best]), when a server was not compatible with the
>video card, it would give me that error. Same thing.
That's interesting. So that suggests that if I reconfigure my video
settings, then things will work okay. But how can I get my video card to
work then? I have an ATI 3D Expression+PC2TV Mach 64 with 4 MB RAM, and I
use True Color (32 bit) in Windows NT. My exact video card is listed in
XF86Config, so why can't I use it?
Steve
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how do i connect to the internet (basic question here)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 18:01:55 GMT
Dean writes:
> I just installed Debian, base system only.
The best place for Debian questions is the debian-user mailing list. Go to
www.debian.org to subscribe.
> Now I don't know how to connect to get software packages. I type 'pon'
> at the prompt and another prompt comes up.
pon calls pppd with the appropriate options and then returns. pppd runs in
the background. This is normal.
> I finnaly got it to quit giving me error messages.
What messages was it giving you?
> But, nothing appears to be happening.
It all happens in the background. To see what is going on run the command
'plog'. It will show you the most recent messages in the ppp log file.
> Am I supposed to do something else?
Do you hear your modem dial and connect? If so, the next thing to do is
just do whatever network stuff you connected for. In your case, run
dselect, select 'Access', and select the ftp method. If not, send me
copies of /etc/chatscripts/provider, /etc/ppp/peers/provider,
/etc/ppp/pap-secrets, and the output of 'plog' (remove all passwords) and I
will try to help you.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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Reply-To: "Calvin Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Calvin Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.linux.slakware,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Newbie: Can't Read CDROM properly
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 12:47:34 -0800
How do I mount a joliet filesystem?
I'm currently running linux kernel 1.2.x, but will be upgrading to RH
5.(latest) soon.
fred smith wrote in message ...
>Calvin Mitchell - Pacbell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>: I wrote some ftp files on a cd-r disc using an HP CD-R 7200.
>
>: When I mount the disc on my linux or openstep system, files that are
beyond
>: a certain size show up as multiple copies.
>
>: Help!!
>
>I saw what may be the same problem recently, tring to use a CD with
>MS's Joliet filesystem on it on my old RH 4.1 system. When viewed under
>Windoze it looked like normal files. When mounted on 4.1 and viewed there
>there were three copies of each file, each with identical names, each one
>third the size of the files that showed up on Windoze. when mounted on
>RH 5.2 (which supports Joliet, 4.1 didn't) it looks just like it did
>on Windoze. So apparently Joliet is weird, makes multiple physical
>files serve the duty of a single combined file, perhaps?
>
>And perhaps your CD is a Joliet cd and you didn't mount it as a
>joliet filesystem.
>
>Fred
>
>--
>---- Fred Smith --
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -----------------------------
> "For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged
> sword, it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and
marrow;
> it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart."
>---------------------------- Hebrews 4:12
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From: citizen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CTRL-ALT-DEL
Date: 18 Jan 1999 12:11:51 +0800
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In <77tr2h$oc8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >I understand that CTRL-ALT-DEL key combo reboots a Linux machine. Is this a
> >good feature, and if not, can it be turned off (How?)
> The link between CAD and shutdown is make in /etc/inittab On RH 5.1, the
> following lines
> # Trap CTRL-ALT-DELETE
> ca::ctrlaltdel:/sbin/shutdown -t3 -r now
> You can change what init runs for CAD by sticking something else in
> there.
> >How else can you reset a workstation?
> ?? What do you mean "reset"?
> You can shutdown by running /sbin/shutdown yourself (usually as root.)
> Look in man shutdown
I understand the shutdown command. I mean "reset" - when your machine
freezes and nothing works, you have to reset it. Is CTRL-ALT-DEL a good
thing to use, and if not, what else can you do. Sun, for instance, has
Stop-A feature. HP-UX does Control-B and then "rs".
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Virtusertable error
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:37:57 GMT
I was working on this problem a month or so ago, but other projects came up
but I would like to try to fix it now.
What I'm trying to do is to get Sendmail setup for vitual hosting. The box is
setup for the domain of kerowyns-haven.com but I would like mail addressed to
havenonline.com and a few other domains to go to it.
I have setup a virtusertable.db file per instructions found on the net.
When I look in my syslog I'm seeing the following error though and mail is not
being delivered correctly:
Jan 13 01:02:56 spot sendmail[6354]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR(root): /etc/sendmail.cf:
line 142: readcf: map virtuser: class dbm not available
I took a look in the sendmail.cfg and line 42 is:
Kvirtuser dbm /etc/virtusertable.db
I checked my /etc directory and here is what I see for virtusertable.db
[root@spot /etc]# dir virtusertable.db
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 16384 Dec 10 17:30 virtusertable.db
Are the permissions ok? What else could be causing this error?
Thanks,
Jen McNitt
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From: henkvand@henk. (henk van der knaap)
Subject: Hylafax, password
Date: 18 Jan 1999 20:54:23 GMT
Dear Readers,
I have a simple question, I think.
I have installed HylaFax this morning. However when I try to send a fax
HylaFax asks for a password. Now this is to be expected. I have logged in as
root.
I want to ask, which password? If I use root's password I get a message
530 Login incorrect.
How can I solve this simple problem?
Many thanks
Henk
Please note my e-mail address at the bottom!!!!
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92 Halswell Junction Road,
Christchurch, New Zealand.
Phone/fax 64 3 3229185
Operating system is Linux 2.0.36 Debian 2.0.2
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My e-mail address is as follows: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Michael McAfee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Scanner setup using SANE/Redhat 5.2?
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 20:42:53 -0500
I have installed SANE 1.0 but can't get it to find and recognize my
scanner (a HP Scanjet 5P)
cat /proc/scsi/scsi gives me the following output:
Attached devices:
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 00 Lun: 00
Vendor: PIONEER Model: DVD-ROM DVD-U02 Rev: 1.06
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 01 Lun: 00
Vendor: HP Model: C5110A Rev: 3638
Type: Processor ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 02 Lun: 00
Vendor: PLEXTOR Model: CD-ROM PX-12TS Rev: 1.01
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 03 Lun: 00
Vendor: SAF Model: CD-R2004 Rev: 1.1d
Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 02
Host: scsi0 Channel: 00 Id: 04 Lun: 00
Vendor: iomega Model: jaz 1GB Rev: H.71
Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02
How do i set-up or configure SANE so that it works with my scanner under
RedHat 5.2? I've read the Man pages but they haven't been much help.
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From: "Tom Emerson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Beowulf into the fold?
Date: 18 Jan 1999 23:58:55 GMT
Not Quite Beowulf, but this months Linux Journal includes an article near
the front regarding DIPC -- Distributed Inter-Process Computing.
Basically, this "hides" the low-level details of message
passing/coordination from the application programmer, yet allows one, two,
several, or thousands of computers to "act together" on a project without
source code changes [save a 1-line #include to flag the process as "able to
use DIPC"] I've skimmed the article over lunch, and I don't see (much) how
it differs from traditional message queues and such, other than perhaps the
source computer need not know in advance where the target computer(s) are
-- it passes the message structures by name-of-structure rather than
name-of-computer. [ok, I'll admit I haven't done much with message passing
either, at least, not at this level nor with Linux in particular]
aallen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<01be431f$18d7de00$59b437a6@genisis>...
> I would personally like to see more documentation for the average weekend
> Linux hack to be able to put together a Linux cluster first. I have yet
to
> find a good how-to in the Borders or Barnes & Nobles which I visit.
>
> Beowulf from what I can find is okay in the sense that it provides a way
to
> "loosely" couple distributed systems through a message passing mechanism.
> This is still a long ways ready for the business environment or even
> end-users like us. How many or what types of problems are you trying to
> solve using parallelism? Another issue which is still plaguing the
Windoze
> world is making applications cluster aware and allowing recoveries across
> nodes. Last I recall from the 80s, managing a production cluster is no
> easy task.
>
> What I would like to see next is a way for a single node in the Beowulf
> cluster to act as the disk controller for all the nodes in a method which
> is programmatically transparent - similar to an HSC/Star Coupler with the
> Dec machines. I understand that this is the topic of many research
> projects today as a way of trying to solve the I/O performance issue. Oh
> well, maybe when the solve it and wait 5 years, the hardware will be
> affordable!
>
>
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From: Marcos Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win 98 partition
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1999 23:43:28 -0200
I have RH 5.2 and badWin98 in my computer.
When I install RH it find the fat32 and mount it automatically.
But you can try "mount -t vfat /dev/<device> <your dir>
Troy Davidson wrote:
> How do you make RH 5.2 recognize a Win 98 partition?
--
Marcos Ferreira da Silva
Centrio Universitario do Triangulo
Uberlandia - MG
Brazil
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