Linux-Misc Digest #388, Volume #19                Tue, 9 Mar 99 19:13:16 EST

Contents:
  Re: Creative Labs Awe32 (egray7)
  a2ps 4.12 -- Any to PostScript (Akim Demaille)
  PPP/diald with Linux 2.2 (Andy Piper)
  Re: More bad news for NT ("David R. Christianson")
  Re: How does rpm check dependencies? (Bob Tennent)
  FS support - kernel 2.2.1 (Andy Piper)
  Re: Staroffice 5.0 install problem ("Christopher R. Dorr")
  Re: this aint a brag BUT!!! ("JACK")
  Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing? (Tomasz Korycki)
  Is my hard drive dying? (Michael Riffle)
  Re: Moving directories accross partitions ("Ron")
  kerneld not needed in 2.2? (Andy Piper)
  Re: Problem APC UPS 1400 (Geoff Allsup)

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From: egray7 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: Creative Labs Awe32
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 18:02:55 GMT

dooogh! wrote:

> Have you tried sndconfig?

Can't, don't have any such program.    But I have managed to figure out
how to get  some things working properly through an older message I
found that said to put some "insmod" stuff in the
rc.d file.    That worked.    Except for using the AWE32's midi
system.   For that, I need the AWE utils at
http://bahamut.mm.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~iwai/awedrv/ but unfortunately, I
can't figure out how to
install it....there are binaries there, but while the awesfx one seems
to work, the drvmidi doesn't.   Think it is set for some other version
of Linux or something.   Can anyone help with doing that?



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From: Akim Demaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: gnu.announce,alt.sources.d,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: a2ps 4.12 -- Any to PostScript
Date: 09 Mar 1999 17:55:54 +0100

GNU a2ps is an Any to PostScript filter.  Of course it processes plain
text files, but also pretty prints quite a few popular languages.

Its slogan is precisely `` Do The Right Thing '', which means that
though it is highly configurable, everything was made so that a novice
user can do complicated PostScript manipulations.  For instance, it
has the ability to delegate the processing of some files to other
filters (such as groff, texi2dvi, dvips, gzip etc.), which allows a
uniform treatment (n-up, page selection, duplex etc.) of heterogeneous
files.

As an example:

| ubu $ a2ps mill.1.ps.gz a2ps.gif NEWS a2ps.texi index.html -o demo.ps
| [mill.1.ps.gz (compressed, delegated to Gzip-a2ps): 17 pages on 9 sheets]
| [a2ps.gif (gif, delegated to ImageMagick): 3 pages on 2 sheets]
| [NEWS (plain): 12 pages on 6 sheets]
| [a2ps.texi (texinfo, delegated to texi2dvi): 89 pages on 45 sheets]
| [index.html (html, delegated to Netscape): 13 pages on 7 sheets]
| [Total: 132 pages on 66 sheets] saved into the file `demo.ps'

Want to print a LaTeX file in Duplex?

| ubu $ a2ps paper.tex -s2 -P margot
| [paper.tex (tex, delegated to texi2dvi): 33 pages on 9 sheets]
| request id is margot-129 (standard input)
| [Total: 34 pages on 9 sheets] sent to the printer `margot'

(Bibtex, makeindex, and latex were run as many times as needed.)

Or maybe you want to print the documentation as a booklet?

| ubu ~/src/a2ps-4.10 $ a2ps -P margot -=book doc/a2ps.texi
| [doc/a2ps.texi (texinfo, delegated to texi2dvi): 109 pages on 109 sheets]
| request id is margot-128 (standard input)
| [Total: 109 pages on 109 sheets] sent to the printer `margot'

It supports a wide number of encodings, and a very good handling of
Latin 2-6 should be noted, thanks to Ogonkify (by Juliusz Chroboczek
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>).  Needed fonts are automatically downloaded.  The
interface is internationalized, the output is customizable and there
are as many options as users had wishes (table of content, headings,
virtual page layout etc. etc.).

The documentation has been carefully crafted for both novices and
experts.  It is meant to bring light on most questions you have, and
includes a glossary.

Contributions
=============

Some goodies are provided in the package:
 - card     pretty prints `--help' from programs
 - fixnt    fixes Windows NT PostScript files (thanks to Holger Bauer)
 - fixps    fixes most common problems in PostScript files
 - pdiff    prints a comparison between two files
 - psmandup eases Duplex printing on Simplex printers
 - psset    inserts special PostScript requests (ManualFeed etc.)

The full distribution of Ogonkify, by Juliusz Chroboczek, is also
included in the package.  Ogonkify lets you fix deficient Latin 2-6
support in popular applications' PostScript (Netscape, e.g.).


Downloading
===========

GNU a2ps is under GPL and can be found on its web page:

        http://www.inf.enst.fr/~demaille/a2ps/

There is also a mailing list set up to discuss around a2ps.  To
subscribe, send a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with `subscribe' in its
body.  Contributions of any kind are most welcome!

Please do *not* use this address to report bugs, but write to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Version 4.12
============

The version 4.12 supersedes all of the previous versions (which are no
longer maintained).  People still using versions prior to 4.10.4 are
*strongly* encouraged to update before, say, 2000 Jan 1st (*blush*).

Here is the top of the NEWS file:

Version 4.12            Feb 16, 1999
 * Configuration Files:
   - Quotation is fixed, and works as in a shell.  It is no longer
     required to write:
         Options: '--stdin=A Title With Spaces'
     since one can write:
         Options: --stdin='A Title With Spaces'
   - `Options:' entries now report the file and line where the error occured.
   - Define a variable #{lp} in a2ps.cfg that is system dependent, but
     allows for system independent definition of printers in a2ps-site.cfg.
   - `Printer:' can specify a PPD only, in which case the `UnknownPrinter:'
     command is used.
   - configure allows --without-extensions
     Install a small a2ps (fewer library files).  Discouraged for non
     ASCII or Latin 1 users.
   - `Include:' includes another configuration file.
   - a2ps.cfg now includes `a2ps-site.cfg' which allows easier
     upgrades of a2ps without loosing previous configurations.
   - Now parsed using gperf.
     No speed up really noticeable :(, but cleaner :).
 * PPD files:
   - supports `*Include:'.
 * Options:
   - --medium supports case insensitive matches.
   - -S formerly --statusdict is now --setpagedevice
   - -D formerly --setpagedevice is now --define.
   - --toc with no argument uses the default Table of Contents layout
     (#{toc}).
   - -s, --sides
     Now admits 1, 2, simplex, duplex, and tumble.
   - --file-align=MODE
     Replaces (generalizes) --compact.  MODE can be:
       + `virtual', put as many files per sheet as possible
       + `rank', never allow two files on the same row (or column)
       + `page', never allow two files on the same page
       + `sheet', never allow two files on the same sheet
       + an integer NUM, specify that files must be aligned on NUM
   - -A
     is now exactly the short option for --file-align.
   - Output of --list=features is much more pleasant to read.
 * Contributions:
   - fixps
     If a file seems really very very bad, asks gs a full rewrite.
     Therefore there should no longer be *any* (valid) PostScript file
     refused by a2ps for delegations.
   - psset inserts PostScript requests for special features (ManualFeed,
     Duplex, DuplexTumble etc.).
   - psmandup
     + Now uses psset
     + New options --back and --front.  --back gives another chance of
       printing the second half if the timeout expired.
 * Style Sheets:
   - Fortran
     Major clean up thanks to Alexander Mai.
     + fortran.ssh remains the generic style sheet for unqualified
       Fortran.
     + (for77|for90)-(fixed|free).ssh for more specific dialects.
   - REXX scripts, thanks to Alexander Mai.
   - dc_shell, thanks to Philippe Le Van.
   - Mixed Style Sheets.
     Mixed sheets are sheets defined by ancestors only.  To build a
     mixed sheet, just specify a comma separated list of ancestors
     anywhere a style sheet key can be given (-E, sheets.map etc.).
   - Visual Tcl, thanks to Phil Hollenback.
   - Extended Tcl, thanks to Phil Hollenback.
 * Bug Fixes:
   - The long standing bug of user options (user options could not
     be used *after* an argument) is fixed.  Now it is safe to run
        a2ps file1 -=lp file2
     (before, only file2 was printed).  Algorithm suggested by Tristan
     Gingold.
   - Version control works also for to-file printers (e.g., -P file).
   - Temporary files are correctly removed even under abnormal conditions
     (broken pipe, C-c etc.).
 * Delegations:
   - Now outputs the setpagedevice requests in delegated jobs.  It is now
     OK to run
        a2ps foo.dvi -s2 -P duplex-printer
   - LaTeX.
     Needed calls to makeindex, bibtex and latex are run.
 * Predefined User Options:
   - `manual' for -SManualFeed:true
   - `book'.  This is experimental.  Allows for printing booklet on
   *printers* only (no way to save as a file).
 * Variables:
   - user.login, user.name, user.home, user.host, user.comments
     are now predefined and, of course, can be change as regular variables.
     Weird escapes such as
       `%a{USERNAME}'
         the localized equivalent for `Printed by USERNAME'
       `%A{USERNAME@HOSTNAME}'
         the localized equivalent for `Printed by USERNAME from HOSTNAME'.
     are no longer needed, and therefore removed.
 * Fonts:
   - .gsf fonts supported.
   - At configuration, a2ps looks for ghostscript fonts
   - PC Line Drawing fonts is fixed.
   - Russian fonts/afms are no longer distributed in the core of the
     package.  Another package, i18n-fonts, contains them all.
 * Translations:
   - Norwegian, thanks to Jon Ross.
   - Slovenian, thanks to Igor.
 * Support of libpaper.
   the special medium `--medium=libpaper' let a2ps pick up the choice
   given to libpaper.  Disabled if libpaper was not available at
   configuration.
 * Environment Variables:
   - A2PS_VERBOSITY is equivalent to --verbose, but is consulted
     since startup (long before command line is read).
 * Error Signaling
   Now a2ps makes visible the invisible characters when reporting an
   error (it helps a lot!).
 * By default liba2ps is built static only.


Authors
=======

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We hope you'll enjoy it!

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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: PPP/diald with Linux 2.2
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 23:09:37 +0000


I've been meaning to setup demand dialling on my Linux machine
for a little while now. Since upgrading to the 2.2.1 kernel, I
notice that when I bring up PPP I get the message

'kernel: PPP: version 2.3.3 (demand dialling)'

in /var/log/messages.

Does this mean that diald is no longer needed? I'm a newbie with
this particular aspect of Linux so I'm a bit confused.

Thanks
Andy

-- 
Andy Piper                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fareham, Hampshire

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From: "David R. Christianson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.destroy.microsoft,comp.os.linux.advocacy,alt.linux
Subject: Re: More bad news for NT
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 23:01:25 GMT

David Steuber wrote:
> 
> GUI time line:
> 
> SRI-----PARC------APPLE-------MSFT
>          |
>         MIT (X)
>          |
>          ----- Free X
> 
> The mouse was invented at SRI.  I forget the name of tha actual
> inventor.
> 
I believe it was Doug Englebart who invented the mouse. He invented a
host of other things at the time but nobody remembers what. How long
before Xerox PARC's GUI was that, anyway?

--
Dave C.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: How does rpm check dependencies?
Date: 9 Mar 1999 21:57:31 GMT

On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 21:37:54 GMT, David M. Siegel wrote:
 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Micha� Kuratczyk) wrote:
 >
 >I built the libraries in question from a source tarball. Is there some
 >way to get rpm to install the libraries I built?

Roll your own binary rpm.  All you need is a simple spec script.
Read the RPM book, available on-line at www.redhat.com. 

An alternative is to use the alien package, which will convert 
a (binary) tgz into a (binary) rpm.

Bob T.

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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: FS support - kernel 2.2.1
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 23:11:30 +0000


I think I heard somewhere that although experimental ADFS support
is available in the 2.2.x kernels, ADFS format disks cannot be
read on PC hardware. Can anyone confirm this, please?

Cheers
Andy

-- 
Andy Piper                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fareham, Hampshire

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From: "Christopher R. Dorr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Staroffice 5.0 install problem
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 14:36:17 -0500


Monkey Boy wrote in message <7c3k17$kmh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Hi,
>
>I'm trying to install StarOffice 5.0 (personal Edition) and am not getting
>very far.  Everytime I run setup, the system hangs and I have to reset it.
>At first I noticed that the installation uncompresses to /tmp and /tmp was
>being filled. I got past that problem but the install still hangs.  The
>system is running RedHat 5.2. Any clues?
>
>Thanks,
>Tom


I had nothing but trouble trying to install StarOffice 5 on a SuSE box.
StarDivision was *no* help at all. The (way too long) key didn't work, they
had no provision for boxes that had no printer or weren't hooked up to the
net. The tech (who I spoke with 4 times) was unable to help at all, and
promised to call back, but never did so. An email to them went unanswered.

Star hung during the install, wouldn't let me register it, generated a bad
registration key. I tried the Windows version a couple months ago, with
similar results. I picked up a copy of ApplixWare. Installed in 10 minutes,
and worked like a charm. StarOffice disappeared from my HD forever. I'm
trying to do a proof-of-concept operational desktop for the bank I work at.
I don't have time to play these stupid games with Star. Their nonsense cost
them at least a few desktop sales, and perhaps 100+. Crap like this doesn't
play in corporate America.

Chris



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From: "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: this aint a brag BUT!!!
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 23:09:02 -0000

i forgot open dos ???
but then again i have wfwg running on that
so that gives an extra half ??

Richard Steiner wrote in message ...
>Here in comp.os.linux.misc, "JACK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:
>
>>I have freebsd\sun solaris\ linux \win95\NT\3.11 all on the one machine
>>so thats 5 and a half O.S's on one box can any one beat this! (I'm sure
>>plenty can )
>
>I approve!  :-)  (Like that matters to you!  <grin>)
>
>On my primary here I have:
>
>Windows 95 OSR2
>OpenDOS 7.01
>OS/2 Warp 4
>Another OS/2 Warp 4
>Slackware Linux 3.2
>Another Slackware Linux 3.2
>Red Hat Linux 4.2
>Red Hat Linux 5.1
>
>On my secondary box I have:
>
>Windows NT 4 Workstation
>PC-DOS 6.3
>OS/2 Warp 4
>BeOS R4
>Solaris 2.6
>FreeBSD 2.2.7,
>Red Hat Linux 5.1
>SuSE Linux 5.3
>
>I'll also be installing Mandrake on the second box Real Soon Now.  But
>if you only count all instances of each OS as "one" OS, the second box
>still has seven of 'em.  :-)
>
>Of course, I really only use Win95, DOS, OS/2, and Red Hat 5.1 on the
>first box and Red Hat 5.1, SuSE 5.3, and NT4 on the second box with any
>real regularity.  Solaris mostly sits, and FreeBSD need more attention
>but I've been too busy in SuSE and BeOS recently to boot into FreeBSD.
>
>--
>   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>---> Bloomington, MN
>    OS/2 + Linux (Slackware+RedHat+SuSE) + FreeBSD + Solaris + BeOS +
>    WinNT4 + Win95 + PC/GEOS + MacOS + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven!
>         ONLINE? Good! Hit <ALT-H> to take the IQ test......



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From: Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Can Linux use 36-bit Xeon addressing?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:37:34 -0500

brian moore wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 01:26:56 -0500,
>  Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > brian moore wrote:
> > >
> > > > Yes. And Your point, as related to "the last holdout from basing their
> > > > systems on Unix concepts is Microsoft" bit? Mind You, if You look deep
> > > > enough into NT architecture, You'll see.... VMS!
> > >
> > > VMS is based on Unix?
> > >
> > > Very interesting news indeed.
> >
> > Never said it was. That was just an "aside". And the explicit answer to
> > my question? I am a little slow on the uptake, as I can't make it out
> > from Your reply....
> 
> I didn't think it needed an explanation, since it's clear that IBM is a
> Unix vendor despite also selling OS/400.  (Heck, they also sell Windows
> on Aptivas.)  Your argument is a red herring.  May as well claim that
> Safeway doesn't sell apples because they have milk.
> 

Well, allright: IBM makes AIX, which I actually love immensely. But You
walk into almost any bank and You won't see too many AIX boxes (with
exception of SP-2's), or other **IX boxes. What You'll see will be
UNISYS XPM3800 series (love the -82!), S/390, Tandem (and NOT the SGI's
OEM'd boxes). Same in power companies. Same in baggage handling
facilities. And so on.... What does it mean? Not that *IX is worse OS,
just that it's not suitable for some tasks. Like OLTP. What that means,
in turn, is that some companies shoot for that niche. You shouldn't look
at IBM as a one company - they are not. Thay all feed off IBM's brand
recognition and size economies (common sales, etc), but that's pretty
much all. OK, You can call 1-800-IBM-SERV and get service for any IBM
product, be it Aptiva or S/390, but that does not mean You're dealing
with the same organisation in all those cases. In fact the AIX group
(and RS6k group) are completely seperated from, say, OS/2 group (yes, it
still exists). I ,don't care about their common name: they're a separate
company from the S/390 people. Or CPU design and fab people.
  Now, that niche also has some specialised players: like UNISYS. They
make their OS2200 and market it quite succesfully, along with the HW it
supports. I looked: they don't see to be making any **IX OS, even though
they DO support their products on various flavours of it.
  Correct me if I'm wrong: I thought the definition of "last" included
that there's NO other. Also, Your original statement did NOT include the
"major" quallifier. Which is good, as ho do You define "major".

> The last holdout is Microsoft:  every other major OS vendor (including
> IBM, which was unthinkable in 1980, as was DEC) is dealing Unix.
> 

See above about the "major" difficulty I have. Plus a vendor is someone
who sells, not necesserily makes, a product. So You seems to be
broadening the domain QUITE a bit... Was that intended?

> Apple, HP, IBM, DEC: all proprietary and wierd OS's of their own 15
> years sgo (remember HP-3000's? or RSTS?).  Now with their major OS
> investments in Unix.
> 

15 Years ago they weren't weird: they just were. Unix was than "weird"
(by the day's standards), and, generally speaking, a bet on the future
going in certain direction, with VERY little security or ways to
introduce it. That's why "the Enterprise" didn't take to it in
overwhelming numbers.

> The exception: Microsoft.
> 

Not the only one, as I'm trying to show. BTW, You seem to be mellowing
Your original statement: it seemed to say MS was the _only_ exception.
Now we have addition of "major", domain broadening with "vendor" and
weakening withlack of "only". Am I to assume "Among companies selling
OSs, Microsoft is an exception in that it doesn't sell any unix-based
OS"? If that's the correct way to read "the last holdout from basing
their systems on Unix concepts is Microsoft", forgive me, as English is
not my mother tongue. 
  I would also suggest we move to e-mail (if You wish to continue, as
our discussion doesn't have a lot to do with this thread...

>>>>>>>> snip! <<<<<<<<
 
> Please trim texts when quoting.
> 

I do, usually. Unless something seems to me relevant to the subject, or
to someone who might stumble upon a message and wish to know what it is
all about. 

> --
> Brian Moore                       | "The Zen nature of a spammer resembles
>       Sysadmin, C/Perl Hacker     |  a cockroach, except that the cockroach
>       Usenet Vandal               |  is higher up on the evolutionary chain."
>       Netscum, Bane of Elves.                 Peter Olson, Delphi Postmaster

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Riffle)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Is my hard drive dying?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 23:19:50 GMT

Hoy,

Today, I download, gunzip and untar about a 9 meg file.  Right after
it's done untarring, I get a prompt and then the system freezes.  No
pings, no nothing.

I go to the datacenter, and the hard drive indicator light is on.  But
I can't pull up a login prompt or anything at the console.  Screen is
blank.

I reboot, and fsck finds and fixes a bunch of things.

I check /var/log/messages and see :

kernel: EXT2-fs error (device 03:03): ext2_find_entry: bad entry in
directory # 890265: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=252, inode=1869902965,
rec_len=11886, name_len=26983

I actually see this repeated a LOT in the /var/log/messages file.
It's been going on for 3 days, I just didn't notice.  I saw one
timestamped right when the system locked up.

Anyway, my question is: is my hard drive going kaput?  I've actually
seen file system corruption the last 3 or 4 times I've restarted the
machine... but I always figured it was because it wasn't shut down
properly.

Any advice out there?

Mike
(don't respond to my email, it's spam proof.  please post here.)

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From: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Moving directories accross partitions
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 20:36:25 +0100
Reply-To: "Ron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

cp with -p (preserve) option, verify the old shit and delete the original?
Ron


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>I'm trying to move a directory to another partition.
>If I use the mv command I get an error message that
>it can't move accross file systems. What would be
>the best way to move it along with all its sub-
>directories and still keep their permissions and
>symlinks after the move?
>
>Greg
>
>



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From: Andy Piper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: kerneld not needed in 2.2?
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 23:13:52 +0000


I've recently moved to kernel 2.2.1 for a number of reasons, and
I've been working my way through the Documentation. One thing
that isn't clear is whether I should physically disable kerneld
in my init scripts now that kmod is being used for loading kernel
modules. I'm using an upgraded RH 5.1 system, so I can just
remove kerneld from all runlevels, but is this going to cause any
issues? I'm a bit confused on this point.

Andy

-- 
Andy Piper                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fareham, Hampshire

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Geoff Allsup)
Subject: Re: Problem APC UPS 1400
Date: 9 Mar 1999 19:32:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 14:59:59 GMT, klaus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I have a Suse 6.0 linux-system and a UPS APC 1400. I installed the apcupsd
>3.5.2.
>
>When power on the UPS fails the linux-system goes down (and remains to
>halted). If power is restored before batteries are empty, the linux-system
>remains halted (but it should then reboot!). If power is not restored, the
>linux-system (in halted-mode) and the UPS ramains up, until batteries are
>empty. When then power is restored the UPS is in a "stand-by"-mode and the
>linux-system does't get power.
>
>Has anyone had any success in setting up apcupsd correctly?
>

something is not right (maybe in /etc/apcupsd.conf ??).  After the system 
halts, the last command issued "pulls the plug" on the UPS, so to speak.
The UPS should shut off (EVEN if power has returned while the system is
midway through shutdown).  When AC power returns (or some number of seconds
after the UPS shuts down if power returned while the system was shutting
down), the UPS should trip back on, applying AC power to the PC and causing
a cold start.  That's certainly how mine works - quite reliable....

Check your configuration...

geoff
 
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Geoff Allsup                   Upper Ocean Processes Group
Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution   Woods Hole, MA, USA
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