Linux-Misc Digest #598, Volume #19 Thu, 25 Mar 99 11:13:12 EST
Contents:
Re: HP Deskjet 895C---any good? (Stephen Marley)
Re: Proxy Server Help? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
vt220 client (xterm replacement) (T. J.)
Re: multi-boot machine ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
search for mails in multible mailboxes with pgp-encrypted mails (peter)
Re: Linux In Banks? (**Nick Brown)
Re: Trouble compiling 2.2.4 ("Gary S. Mackay")
Re: queuing of sendmail / fetchmai (Roman Czyborra)
Re: HELP! Need data from BAD Floopy! (Jim)
diff test suite (gerry simpson)
Re: Linux In Banks? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Fat 32 and linux: can I mount? (Doug Burgess)
"Make"-type tree copy ? (**Nick Brown)
Re: printer not detected with new kernel (James Tappin)
Re: How to change date BE CAREFUL!!! ("Christopher J. Mattern")
Re: DAT drive initialisation on Linux system (kernel 2.2.3) (Rainer Krienke)
Re: HP Deskjet 895C---any good? ("Chris Savage")
Which X11Amp is stable ("Wael Sedky")
2.2.3 doesn't like my HDD (Rob Fisher)
Re: Linux-supported hardware (Jet)
Re: HELP! Need data from BAD Floopy! (Bill Vermillion)
Re: HELP! Need data from BAD Floopy! (Bill Vermillion)
Re: Public license question (Lynn Winebarger)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stephen Marley)
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet 895C---any good?
Date: 25 Mar 1999 12:53:18 GMT
kul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> so i'm wondering has anybody got this printer to work under linux and if
> you have does it produce good results.
I haven't done anything with colour under Linux, but the hpdj
ghostscript driver at 600dpi produces beautiful postscript results. I
set this up with SuSE 5.2's yast (non-hp drivers) in a matter of
seconds. This printer works under Linux because of its PCL 3 support
which cheaper HP printers don't have (eg 710, 720).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Proxy Server Help?
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:47:14 GMT
In article <uefK2.1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"tel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know much about UNIX, but I need to have a proxy server running on a
> Red Hat Linux box. Is there a good resource for finding UNIX consultants or
> does any one here want to help? (I'm not exactly loaded with $$$$)
>
> - tel
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
Try squid http://squid.nlanr.net/ . It's free and it's good.
Eric Headley
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (T. J.)
Subject: vt220 client (xterm replacement)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 1999 22:42:50 -0600
Is there an xterm-like client somewhere that is vt220 compatible?
xterm seems hip only to vt102, and I have need for vt220 functionality
many thanks
-thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.unixware.misc,alt.solaris.x86
Subject: Re: multi-boot machine
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 11:53:46 GMT
Hi there
The order of installation is very important to save you headaches. Solaris
has to be the active partition to keep it happy. I haven't found any way
round this without resorting to a bootmanager. If you install NT after
Solaris that will make NT the active partition and the system probably won't
boot until you make Solaris active again.
This is my set up:
Disk 0 (2GB) - NT and Solaris
Disk 1 (1GB) - RH Linux and Linux swap
On Disk 0
I installed NT first on a FAT partition and it takes up 1GB. I left the
remaining 1GB unformated. I then installed Solaris on the unformatted 1GB
partition. The Solaris installation picked up the unformatted partition
without any problems.
After a reboot, you'll get the Solaris boot menu that will give you 2
options: BIGDOS which is for NT and a Solaris option. If you pick BIGDOS,
that will take you to the NT boot menu and you can boot NT as normal.
On Disk 1
I installed Linux and the linux swap on this disk because the Linux swap and
Solaris share the same ID. One thing to note, even though Solaris and Linux
are on separate disks the Linux installation insisted on putting the swap
over the Solaris partition. To get around this, I used "Ranish Boot manager"
on a bootable floppy to temporarily hide the Solaris partition before hand.
Once Linux is installed I used "Bootpart" to make a bootsec.lnx file so that
Linux can be included in the NT boot menu and modified the boot.ini file to
include Linux as a menu option.
After all that, on boot up, I get the Solaris boot menu which allows me to
select Solaris or BigDos. When I select BigDos, that will take me to the NT
boot menu which I can boot to NT or Linux.
Ranish Boot manager and Bootpart are both free utilities available on the net.
Hope this all helps.
Regards,
Jon
In article <7d9d0h$n39$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robin Chung) wrote:
>
> I've had an awful time getting NT and Solaris to co-exist with each other.
> My multiboot SMP machine is running on a Tyan Tomcat Pentium 200MMX dual
> machine. Award Bios, 4.51 PG, dated 5/13/98.
>
> Win NT 4.0, sp3
> Win 95
> Dos 6.22
> Linux 2.0.33
> Solaris x86 2.6
>
> The problem exists between Solaris and NT. The system is multibooted using
> System Commander v3.01, and has worked fine in that regard. The necessary
> partitions are hidden from each other (linux swap and solaaris), but
> NT wants to clobber the solaris partition.
>
> EIDE controller 0
> Drive 0 850MB WD850H
> Drive c: Win NT boot and DOS 6.22 boot
> Drive f: Win 95 boot
> Drive 1 Quantum Fireball 2.1GB
> part 0 Linux
> Drive D: FAT
> Drive E: NTFS
>
> Eide controller 1
> Drive 0 Seagate 4.3 GB medallist
> part 0 Solaris 2GB
> Part 1 FAT 1GB
> Part 2 unallocated
>
> NT's diskadmin reports incorrect partition sizes for the third hard drive
> where solaris lives. Solaris, DOS, Win95 have no problem seeing the other
> Microsoft FAT volumes on the third hard drive, but NT refuses to. The drive
> is recognized as LBA, and its logical cylinders are less than 1024. Solaris
> is installed in the lower portion of the 4GB, beginning in the 1st GB.
>
> I've tried formatting the 3rd drive as an NTFS volume of 2GB, and Solaris,
> but NT keeps clobbering the partition. Disk Admin is bad news for Solaris
> so far as I can tell. This is my second drive, the previous being a 4.3GB
> Fujitsu.
>
> I hate to think I've got to resign myself to buying another hard drive to
> get stupid NT to co-exist with Solaris on the same drive!
> any ideas?
> --
> Robin Chung [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Univ. of Warwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computer Systems Engineering [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Mulder to Scully: "I had you big time..."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (peter)
Crossposted-To: alt.security.pgp
Subject: search for mails in multible mailboxes with pgp-encrypted mails
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:09:48 GMT
linux2.2.3, pgp5
I�ve a lot of mails, seperated in a lot of mailboxes with procmail, about
half of this mails is pgp-encrypted/signed and now I start looking for
some of these old mails and I need to search:
what I tried to do is:
a) grep all the mailboxes to search the mails that are NOT pgp-encrypted
b) feed the mailboxes to pgpv and grep the output
a) works fine (of course) but b) gives me some kind of troubles:
I do a kind of pgpv <mailbox >>pgp
and get:
======
Opening file "stdout" type text.
Opening file "/dev/null" type text.
<SNIP>
Message is encrypted.
Opening file "stdout" type text.
Opening file "/dev/null" type text.
This signature applies to another message
File to check signature against [fileName]:
=====
this seems to be a signed attachment with some inconsitences. I cannot
name the file cause the file does not exist. pgpv stops here and gives me
no way to skip this sign-verifycation.
another kind of problem:
=====
Opening file "/dev/null" type text.
Opening file "Temporary PGP Keyfile" type binary.
Copying key file to "/tmp/ptmpa06404", running pgpk to process it...
pgpk -a /tmp/ptmpa06404
Adding keys:
Add these keys to your keyring? [Y/n]
=======
I will enter no here but I want to run these things in a script so dont
want my search-script to ask me stupid questions ..
maybe anyone can help me with this problems or give me a much better and
easier method than I wanted to do. (preferred is a method that can be
done INSIDE mutt ;)
thanks,
peter
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux In Banks?
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:47:29 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Beware, though - if I were a FUD vendor I would be claming that open
source means that the hackers can do damage more easily since the
loopholes would be easier to exploit. This isn't true, but the average
bank VP doesn't know that (or indeed very much at all).
> |Also make it very clear to them that security holes are solved the
> |moment one is found. With other OS this can take a longer time. As
> |security is something they as a bank must be interested in.
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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 08:09:44 -0500
From: "Gary S. Mackay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Trouble compiling 2.2.4
Yep, I had the same problem. Edit the ./kernel/acct.c file and change
lines 197 and 203. Add a comma and the work NULL to the parameter list.
for example: filp_close(file,NULL)
It will compile fine now. The new definition for this function has two
parameters, tho I'll have to admit I didnt' take time to find out
whatfor.
Steve Gage wrote:
>
> Just downloaded the source for kernel 2.2.4.
>
> Compilation bombs as follows:
>
> acct.c: In function `sys_acct':
> acct.c:197: too few arguments to function `filp_close'
> acct.c:203: too few arguments to function `filp_close'
> make[2]: *** [acct.o] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.4/kernel'
> make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.4/kernel'
> make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
>
> Never had any problem compiling any other 2.2.x kernel. Anyone else seen
> this, or have any idea what's going on?
>
> TIA,
>
> Steve
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From: Roman Czyborra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.sendmail,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: queuing of sendmail / fetchmai
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:40:13 +0100
> > I think the trick is configure the external mailers (smtp) as "expensive",
> > and tell sendmail not to connect to "expensive" mailers with the
> > HoldExpensive option. Then you need to take sendmail out of deferred mode.
> > I realize this is sketchy, but hope it helps anyway.
> I've recently set something like this up, and it *almost* works :)
> If you change the DeliveryMode from Deferred to Background then you
> get the problem that sendmail does DNS lookups every time you submit a
> mail via SMTP.
Add FEATURE(nocanonify) to prevent the DNS lookups.
define(`confCON_EXPENSIVE', True)
define(`confDELIVERY_MODE', background)
define(`SMTP_MAILER_FLAGS', `e')
FEATURE(nodns)
FEATURE(nocanonify)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim)
Subject: Re: HELP! Need data from BAD Floopy!
Crossposted-To: alt.unix.wizards,comp.unix.questions
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:45:49 GMT
In article <7dd12j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Moritz Barsnick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
[snip]
> IIRC, `dd' demands to read through its input. It will therefore encounter
> those bad blocks and fail. I remember reading of a `dd'-replacement whichs
> seeks to the "skip"ped part. You can read about it in the Linux
> "Ext2-Undeletion" mini-HOWTO, I think.
But like Andrew said, even though 'dd' can't read the bad blocks, you
can force it to ignore the errors and keep reading the media. then
you compare the two sets and if there are different areas taht are
bad, you put the food pieces together.
jrs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (gerry simpson)
Subject: diff test suite
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 06:34:42 GMT
I am looking for some comprehensive test data to put diff through it's
paces.
Anyone know where this might be found.
thanks in advance
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux In Banks?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 13:55:56 GMT
What follows is *my* opinion, and *must not* be taken as the opinion
or position of my employer (a canadian bank).
Divide the bank computers/systems up into catagories like...
a) servers (file/print/data)
b) internal "back office" applications
c) internal "front office" applications, and
d) public portals (i.e. webserver, etc.)
Bank management *might* approve of installing Linux on the servers and
"back office" application systems. "Front office" application systems
would receive higher scrutiny, at least because of the risk of less
controlled access, and the public portals would receive the highest
scrutiny of all.
I like Linux, and I'd like the bank that I work for to like Linux as
well. However, these are the arguments I've had to consider when
broaching the subject of Linux to *my* superiors. Aside from the
technological questions, the prime question that my superiors have to
answer is "Would the use of Linux (in each specific instance) put the
bank's customers, employees or shareholders at financial risk?" If the
answer is "yes", and a risk assesment shows that the risk is too high,
then Linux won't fly.
Lew Pitcher
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From: Doug Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Fat 32 and linux: can I mount?
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 12:23:02 GMT
Go to the /mnt subdirectory and make a place for your drive to be
mounted .... say fat32_part so
mkdir fat32_part
then try as root or superuser
mount -t vfat /dev/[drive-partition designator] /mnt/fat32_part
Christian D Freet wrote:
>
> Does linux recognize FAT 32? I have been unable to mount my second
> partition which uses the FAT 32 file system...
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.....
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: "Make"-type tree copy ?
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:49:10 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there a Unix command to copy one file tree to another, but only copy
files which are not already present - that is, saving unnecessary
copies, like Make does with unnecessary compiles ?
I wrote my own one of these for DOS years ago, and for NT I use ROBOCOPY
from the resource kit, so I presume something exists for Unix/GNU, but I
don't know what all the command names mean !
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From: James Tappin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printer not detected with new kernel
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 07:38:36 +0000
Benjamin HERZOG wrote:
>
> Hello ,
> I am runing Linux Red Hat 5.1 , and i upgraded my kernel from 2.0.34 to
> 2.2.4 .
> Now, i have a problem: my printer is not detected.
> In printtool (X11 , RH 5.1), when i add a printer, i get a dialogbox
> that tells if a printer is detected on the parallel ports.
> My printer (HP 870 Cxi) used to be detected as /dev/lp1 when i installed
> RH.
> Now, its is not detected any more.
>
> I tried to recompile the kernel twice. (with make xconfig )
> First time, i added the parallel port supports in general setup.
> Second time, i added an option in Plug and Play to detect devices
> (there, i really thought that would work ! ... but nothing ! )
2 things to try:
1) It's almost certainly on /dev/lp0 now
2) I found I had to compile support for parallel port (PC style) into
the kernel (the printer can be a module) under 2.2.1
--
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http://www.tappin.force9.co.uk/ with data loss in it I fancy"
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From: "Christopher J. Mattern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to change date BE CAREFUL!!!
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.questions
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 15:00:48 GMT
In comp.unix.admin James Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I hedge my bets and synch up to one of the NIST clocks in a cron job.
> /usr/sbin/netdate time_a.timefreq.bldrdoc.gov
> I don't have bad clock drift (no worse than the average PC), but this
> cron job kicks it back into alignment periodically.
ntp is better. xntpd continually syncs with your time servers while
you're connected and calculates your clock drift to correct the
system time when you're not connected.
Chris Mattern
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rainer Krienke)
Subject: Re: DAT drive initialisation on Linux system (kernel 2.2.3)
Date: 25 Mar 1999 15:44:22 +0100
Thank you for your answers. I�ll try mt/ mtst. I think this should fix
my problems.
Rainer
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From: "Chris Savage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HP Deskjet 895C---any good?
Date: 25 Mar 1999 10:20:09 GMT
Hi,
Excuse the language, but under Windoze, it is trully terrific.
I am just setting up Linux on my home machine but haven't got as far as
trying to print anything yet! I set up the standard HP inkjet @ 600x600.
When I try it I will get back to you.
Add my name to the list for a decent driver for it though.
Chris
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From: "Wael Sedky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Which X11Amp is stable
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 1999 02:53:13 GMT
I have been using x11amp0.7 and it was very stable. I noticed they have
removed that version from their website. Has anyone tried the new one 0.9?
Is it good , i mean stable?
Thanks
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From: Rob Fisher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: uk.comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux,linux.dev.kernel
Subject: 2.2.3 doesn't like my HDD
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 10:42:35 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Has anyone else had major disk problems with the 2.2.3 kernel? I
overhauled my system, moving from libc5 to glibc and reorganizing my
partitions to make better use of space. With a precompiled 2.0.29
kernel, everything is fine, but when I moved back up to 2.2.3,
everything turned ugly.
I used my standard configuration, built with egcs-1.1.1 (all my binaries
have been rebuilt to take advantage of glibc) and had no problems. But
when I boot into the new kernel, there's a kernel panic because the root
filesystem isn't mounted. (Fair enough - I panicked when I realised.)
Changing the options in my kernel config I can eliminate this problem,
but then the partitions on my first HD (primary master, Quantum Fireball
6.4Gb) are not recognized even as ext2fs. Given that one of these is
/usr, this is not good. Partitions on my secondary master (Fujitusu
3.2Gb) are fine.
When I just had one partition (root) on the Fireball, I had no problems,
though I had seen the "root FS not mounted" thing before - albeit only
with 2.2.3.
I can post details of my kernel config and the exact messages if need
be, but I'm at work now and I don't have the info to hand. Just wondered
if this rang any bells with anyone?
Thanks,
Rob
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From: Jet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux-supported hardware
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 00:37:51 -0800
James Lee wrote:
>
> Most times, the Linux gurus are ok.... they get their way around. But
> I think a lot of the woes may come from those buying new machines or
> wanting to use their existing Windows machines, and then wanting to
> try Linux, and then running into a lot of problems because they have
> winmodems, winprinters, etc. So, perhaps a much less ambitious project
> is a site that list manufacturer and model, and then people help chip in
> their experience on each piece of hardware they have on that
> particular model. This will help people who want to buy a machine to
> run Linux. Something like:
>
> manufacturer: compaq
> model: presario xxxx
I know that the same model compaq can have different CD rom models, the
same for Packard Bell.
>
> What do people think?
I think it is a great idea.
J
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: HELP! Need data from BAD Floopy!
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:13:01 GMT
In article <7dbf3b$m55$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I wrote a huge amount of code some years back (like over 5) under
>SCO UNIX and backed it up using tar (the file stored was a cpio
>file that was then compressed).
>Now years later I pulled out my backup disks (I had two sets) and
>tried to restore them to Redhat 5.2 Linux. But I got disk errors on
>both sets disk #1 and it aborted. I tried just for the heck of it
>to restore disk #2 and it seemed to work.
Just a question (maybe a stupid one) but are you using the correct
floppy /dev entry.
There has been a change over the years so that some devices
started on the 0th cylinder and others started on the 1st cylinder.
I don't recall when SCO changed but the first V.3's I used had
/dev entries for both styles - typically ending in 'h' or 't'.
You will get errors trying to read like this. It's probably
not the problem in you case, but I throw this out anyway.
Bill
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: HELP! Need data from BAD Floopy!
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 1999 14:21:07 GMT
In article <01be769e$34cb4680$8e6155c1@rts95>,
Radek Tomis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Now years later I pulled out my backup disks (I had two sets) and
>> tried to restore them to Redhat 5.2 Linux. But I got disk errors on
>> both sets disk #1 and it aborted. I tried just for the heck of it to
>> restore disk #2 and it seemed to work.
>Just out of curiosity. Have you tried to blow out any visible particles
>off the floppy surface ? Seriously, this saved my butt many times. Or
>you may want to try it in different drive..
Alternatively he could get one of the cheaper cleaning disks - the
kind with the woven fabric that you pre-moistend and then insert.
Dirty drives are a big problem for systems with underused drives
because of the poor design with which were inflicted by IBM when
the PC came into use.
That design blows air OUT of the power-supply and creates a
low-pressure area inside the system. This is contrary to good
engineering practice.
It also means that air will come in through any opening at all,
and because of the Bernouli principle (the man not the drives)
the smallest openings have the highest velocity. This used
to be particularly bad when you put chips in sockets that
previously had been empty. We don't have the problem much
anymore except on tape drives and floppy drives.
Systems with doors that close on the front are good. Well designed
servers are better as they all pressurize the case by drawing air
in through filters.
A bit off the subject, but I've seen dirty drives more often than
I'd care to think about.
--
Bill Vermillion bv @ wjv.com
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lynn Winebarger)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Public license question
Date: 25 Mar 1999 10:52:25 GMT
In article <7d8k5r$39o$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Richard E. Hawkins Esq. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <7d7tlf$3gg$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>Lynn Winebarger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I would have thought it would have been the result of being to close
>>to the situation to make a rational evaluation, rather than just not
>>doing one's homework. (The former criticism I can certainly see as
>>holding validity universally, the latter I don't know about).
>
>It's both, although the former tends to be worse than the latter.
>However, the latter is often the case when attorneys represent themselves
>(generally a bad idea, too).
That is sort of surprising. Are you talking about attorneys
representing themselves outside their area of specialization, or within,
or both?
>
>We used to refer to the "My Girlfriend's Divorce Shool of Law," the
>phenomenon in which a client (usually a woman in a domestic matter; i
>can't explain why) tries to explain the law and what she's entitled
>to (inevitably being thoroughly incorrect) to her attorney, using
>what she (thinks she) knows from what happened to someone else. This
>is frequently an early warning sign that you're dealing with a "client from
>hell."
>
I won't deny the possibility of being a client from hell. But at
least I'd be citing case law, and not a girlfriend.
Can I help it if I like being vigorous in pursuing matters relating
to my liberty? (More to the point, would I want to help it?)
Lynn
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