Linux-Misc Digest #627, Volume #19 Sun, 28 Mar 99 00:13:08 EST
Contents:
QIC-80 help (JoeBob the Great)
Comparable computer LINUX set up instead of iMac (Don Saklad)
how to compile (rik)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (wizard)
Detech Modem Speed (Jack Cheng)
Re: Linux and Netscape 4.51 (tar/gz format) (wizard)
Re: good linux books? (Michel)
Help configuring audio card (Christian D Freet)
Re: can't be excuted by typing its name (Thomas Griffing)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Rod Roark)
Re: Copy file is too large (Bob Martin)
Any contact - Linux and Psion Series 5 (Karel Nolles)
Re: Problem with kppp on KDE 1.1 (kama)
Re: can't be excuted by typing its name (Kevin Martin)
Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer (Thomas Griffing)
Re: postgreSQL or MySQL for Webserver? (Allin Cottrell)
Re: can't be excuted by typing its name (Allin Cottrell)
Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0 (Tomasz Korycki)
Re: good linux books? (jik-)
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From: JoeBob the Great <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: QIC-80 help
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 02:55:39 GMT
I am having trouble getting my Colorado QIC-80 tape drive working under Linux.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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From: Don Saklad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Comparable computer LINUX set up instead of iMac
Date: 27 Mar 1999 22:32:16 -0500
1. What would be an example of a comparable computer LINUX set up that
could be configured instead of buying an iMac ?
2. Exactly what manufacturers components could be used?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rik)
Subject: how to compile
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:26:28 GMT
i would like to use my c++ complie capablility of my linux , but i
just do'nt know how to.. can someone tell me?
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From: wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:32:07 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Idea Man wrote:
> Does anyone else think this would be a good idea? Keep the i386 tree, and
> add an i686 tree that is optimized for P-II/Celeron/P-III processors.
>
> This might be a pain in the butt for the mirrors (more hard drive space
> used), but for some mirrors this would be just fine. This would also make
> Linux higher performing for all the people with flashy new Pentium-III
> machines...
>
> Just my ideas...
>
> -Idea Man
Idea Man;
This is an excellent idea and is something I've been supporting for a long
time. Though some would disagree there is a performance gian to be had by
doing the following.
1. Going from gcc to EGCS to build libraries and applications. EGCS
can have a big impact on the kernel.
2. Using a pentium specific compiler will also give you an incremental
speed increase.
3. Sticking with the latest libs and apps is also a big help performance
wise.
If you look at redhats rawhide site you will see that they have a kernel
built and labled as a i686 application so hopefully that is redhats
intention. It would be foolish for redhat not to develop a 686 specific
version of Linux. The reallity is if they don't someone else will. The
bigger issue for Redhat, is to be able to market a 686 kernel that is ready
for the P3. As it is there is some work to be done in that area.
Keep in mind that not every app will be helped by the transistion to 686
code, the trick is to pick the ones most likly to benefit from speciall
optimization.. The key spots of concern are the kernel, the C & C++ libs,
and the x-server. Optimize thoose and we are on our way to high
performance computing. If you intend to do any of this your self make sure
you have a compiler that can generate pentium2 code, some versions of EGCS do
NOT. Try loooking at the compilers supplied by the pentium GCC group.
Dave
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From: Jack Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Detech Modem Speed
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:33:40 +0800
Hello,
How do I check the connection speed while the modem on line ?
Thanks
Jack Cheng
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From: wizard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Linux and Netscape 4.51 (tar/gz format)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 23:02:25 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Peter DeSimone wrote:
> Has anyone installed this version? What I am supposed to do after I
> untar/ungz it? What directory should I put it ? Any specific commands
> I should use? Thanks... Peter
> --
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Peter DeSimone
> Email Address: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Web Address:
> Http://www.bigfoot.com/~desimonp ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Hi Peter;
If your runing redhat you can get the 4.51 in rpm format off there
rawhide site. Its what I'm running at this very moment. Still lots
of bugs.
Dave
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Hi Peter;
<p>If your runing redhat you can get the 4.51 in rpm format off there rawhide
site. Its what I'm running at this very moment.
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From: Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: good linux books?
Date: 27 Mar 1999 22:05:12 -0600
Christopher Michael Jones wrote:
>
> I have just installed RedHat linux 5.2 on my computer (the
> CD arrived today) and after some initial troubles, I have
> got it working properly. Now, what I would like to know
> what are some really good books on Linux, especially RedHat?
>
> I find the various howTo's etc. moderately (though not
> very) useful, and I don't want to sit at my computer
> combing through countless webpages looking for those
> rare nuggets of info that are actually useful. And
> I don't want to have to memorize everything that _might_
> be important, or waste my printer's paper and ink trying
> to setup every little thing. I also want to be able to
> get an overall "teaching" on everything I need to know,
> not just one little thing at a time.
>
> To give some background on me, I have a lot of experience
> with many types of operating systems (including various
> unix variants), but I do not have experience in being a
> sysadmin on a unix machine (setting up hardware, servers,
> etc.). One thing I am struggling through right now
> is getting X-window up and running. I can bumble
> through and do stuff, but I'd rather get the knowledge
> and learn how to do it right and deal with _real_
> problems (instead of my not knowing how everything
> works).
>
> So, if anybody has any recommendations, your help is
> welcommed.
>
Try "The complete idiot's guide to Linux"
It is a very good book which describe how to use KDE and the basics that you
need to get you going under the console. It is written by QUE and is excellent.
It has a Caldera Linux 1.3 CD from the summer of 98. Caldera Linux is close enough
to RedHat for that book to be very helpfull.
I paid $18 for mine at CompuUSA. If you don't have one of those stores near where
you live you may find it on the net. Check cheapbytes, they got lotsa good Linux
books.
--
Tired of Windows' rebootive multitasking?
then try Linux's preemptive multitasking
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian D Freet)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help configuring audio card
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 14:41:45 GMT
I have an Aureal vortex pci sound card, and it doesn't work in linux (X)... probably
because I
have no idea how to make it work.
Any help with configuration is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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From: Thomas Griffing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: can't be excuted by typing its name
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 04:29:09 GMT
Dennis Ho wrote:
> I just set up a linux server, and when I try to excute a C excutable
> file, said, "a.out", by just typing
> a.out at prompt, it failed with a statment like "bash: a.out: commad not
> found". But when I type
> "./a.out", the file is excuted successfully.
> Can someone tell me how to fix that so I can excute that a.out by
> just typing a.out
This happens when the current directory (".") is not in your "PATH"
environment variable. To add it to your path:
$ PATH=$PATH:.
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Thomas L. Griffing mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vistyx Corp http://www.vistyx.com
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From: Rod Roark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: 28 Mar 1999 04:26:25 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read: my wife) to spend
>around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
>horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
>worked with Linux. My prequisites: ...
My biggest success spending that much was getting my wife a diamond
anniversary ring that she didn't expect. :-)
-- Rod
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Sunset Systems Preconfigured Linux Computers
http://www.sunsetsystems.com/ and Custom Software
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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Copy file is too large
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 1999 13:11:39 -0600
Possibly a limit on the job size. In the printcap database one of the parameters,
mx, controls the size of a job that is allowed to print. might check that. Also
doesn't acrobat allow printing a range of pages ? try printing several smaller
jobs instead of one big one.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was trying to print a file from acrobat ( about 200 pages ) and when it had
> gone through all the pages it returned the message " copy file too large".
> When I checked the /tmp directory I saw a 100M temporary file that was
> apparently generated by the program. Why is the file too large, and what can
> I do to print my file.
>
> Eric Headley
>
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From: Karel Nolles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Any contact - Linux and Psion Series 5
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 14:49:47 +1000
Does anyone know of any work being done about connecting a linux box
with a Psion Series 5 ? (Any Howtos in development ?, etc)
Regards,
Karel
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From: kama <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem with kppp on KDE 1.1
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:50:35 +1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Not on mine. (KDE 1.1, kernel 2.2.1, SuSE 6.0.)
>
> Did you use the SuSE rpms, or compile it yourself?
I used SuSE rpms for KDE 1.1.
Downloaded kernel 2.2.2, recompiled.
I don't remember having this problem before moving to kernel 2.2.*
Later
Mac
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Martin)
Subject: Re: can't be excuted by typing its name
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 04:00:40 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, it says Dennis Ho
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Please help....
On one condition -- see below.* Followups set to c.o.l.questions only.
I plan to answer this Frequently Asked Question so thoroughly that NO ONE
will need to ask it again for *at least* a week. It's "clip and save" time,
everybody!
>When I try to excute a C excutable file, said, "a.out", by just typing
>a.out at prompt, it failed with a statment like "bash: a.out: command not
>found". But when I type "./a.out", the file is excuted successfully.
Yep. You've got more than half the answer already.
> Can someone tell me how to fix that so I can excute that a.out by
>just typing a.out
Unix does not run a program unless (a) the directory where it resides is
found in your $PATH string, or (b) you specify the full path to the
executable file (as you did in your example, by using ./ to indicate "my
current directory".)
Note that while the current directory "." is in your path by default in
MS-DOS, in Linux it is NOT.
To see your current PATH, type: echo $PATH
You could add "." to your PATH, but that's a bad habit. (Not so bad
for a one-user machine, but it can be deadly on a multi-user one.) So: you
can move a.out to a directory that is already on your $PATH, or you can add
a new directory to your $PATH and put a.out in that directory.
If you have a lot of personal scripts and small utilities, it's good to
create a 'bin' directory under your login $HOME directory, and add that
directory to your $PATH in your .profile (or whatever the equivalent file is
for your shell).
To do that, enter these three lines at the command prompt:
mkdir $HOME/bin # create the directory - you only need to do this ONCE
chmod 700 $HOME/bin # make it searchable and protect it from strangers
set PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin # make it the LAST place you look for programs
Also add only the LAST line above to the end of your $HOME/.profile so it is
run every time you log in. Now if you put a.out into $HOME/bin you can run
it just by typing "a.out" at the command line. Question answered.
(If you need to access this program from more than one account, it
should probably go into '/usr/local/bin' rather than '$HOME/bin'.)
Also be sure that the file is "executable"; the output from a compiler
usually has its protection or 'mode' set that way by default, but to make a
script executable you will need to change its mode like so:
chmod +x filename
And finally, a common stumbling block for people at your point in the
learning curve is that they name their first program "test." Don't do that,
because that name is already used by a somewhat important system
program, one which is used by many scripts. (You use 'test' to see whether
a file exists or not.) Either your own 'test' program won't run, or you'll
break your system trying to *make* it run! The first is merely confusing,
the latter can be a disaster.
>Thanks a million
*Here's my fee: Next time you have a problem, please pick ONE Linux group
and give the people there a fair chance to answer before you decide to
involve another group. It wrecks the whole point of having all these groups
when people crosspost to so many of them. Okay? Ciao.
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From: Thomas Griffing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Help me spend $2,000 on a new Linux-based computer
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 04:45:59 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've gotten the go-ahead from my better half (read: my wife) to spend
> around 2K on a new system. I'd like to hear _specific_ success and/or
> horror stories on systems and peripherals that have worked and not
> worked with Linux. My prequisites:
>
> 400mhz CPU
> 96mb RAM
> 8mb video card
> 19" monitor
> sound card, speakers
> 4GB hard drive
> CD-ROM
>
> Bonuses:
> DVD
> Color printer
> Tape backup
> Dual CPUs
>
> Notes:
> I don't play video games, so 3D video doesn't mean anything to me.
> I'm open to build-my-own or buying from Micron, Gateway, Dell, etc.
I am using a system that I requested a local computer shop to build
for me and am quite happy with it, using primarily Linux (99%) and
Windows 98 when I must. I am using an AMD K6-2 processor with
no problem. Here is my setup:
AMD K6-3/350 MHz
128 MB DIMM SDRAM (single 10 ns stick)
1.44 MB Floppy
IDE CD-ROM
6.4 GB Seagate IDE 7200 RPM hard disk
Conner 2/4 GByte IDE Tape drive
Sound Blaster Sound card
8 MB Matrox Millenium II/G200 video card
21" KDS Monitor
Of course, processor speeds are higher now (they've even released
the AMD-K6 III chips now.
I find that establishing a rapport with a local vendor is a great way to
go.
Let him know up front that you plan to run Linux on it and make sure
he's willing to swap components if they don't work properly with Linux.
Linux has great device support, but I would suggest you check out the
linux hardware document *BEFORE* you buy to make sure you are
getting hardware that will work:
http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HARDWARE
Hope this helps
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Thomas L. Griffing mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Vistyx Corp http://www.vistyx.com
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: postgreSQL or MySQL for Webserver?
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 23:32:23 -0500
ewoods wrote:
>
> postgreSQL or MySQL for Webserver? The subject says it all...
I've been very satisfied with mSQL
http://www.Hughes.com.au/products/msql/
It has its own (very intuitive) scripting language and cgi
script interpreter so it's not necessary to recompile your web
server or add modules to same.
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: Allin Cottrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: can't be excuted by typing its name
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 23:39:27 -0500
Hadean Dragon wrote:
>
> I'm a newbie myself, but from what I know, there isn't a way, since I'm
> still having to type ./configure to install newly made applications,
> etc...
Your path does not include ".", the current directory. This is
a Red Hat "security measure". If you don't want to have to type
the "./" before the name of an executable in the current directory,
then add . onto your path in .profile in your home directory
PATH=$PATH:.
--
Allin Cottrell
Department of Economics
Wake Forest University, NC
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From: Tomasz Korycki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Idea: Make a seperate "i686" tree for Redhat Linux 6.0
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 23:59:16 -0500
Johan Kullstam wrote:
>
> d s f o x @ c o g s c i . u c s d . e d u (David Fox) writes:
>
> > "Idea Man" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > Does anyone else think this would be a good idea? Keep the i386 tree, and
> > > add an i686 tree that is optimized for P-II/Celeron/P-III processors.
> > >
> > > This might be a pain in the butt for the mirrors (more hard drive space
> > > used), but for some mirrors this would be just fine. This would also make
> > > Linux higher performing for all the people with flashy new Pentium-III
> > > machines...
> >
> > How much performance improvement would there be?
>
> based on my experience with egcs over the past year, not much.
>
> the pentium classic seems to be hypersensitive to scheduling, but the
> i686 (i have a pentiumpro) seems have roughly the same performance
> (using time on a few of my programs) for compiles with -march=i386,
> i486 or pentiumpro. -march=pentium hurt speed by about 10%.
>
Actually, if You have FP-heavy code (graphics, raytracing, FEA, CFD,
Stats, simulation), P6-optimised code can gain You as much as 15-20%,
compared to i386.
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Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 21:16:03 -0800
From: jik- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: good linux books?
Don wrote:
>
> jik- wrote:
>
> > The absolutely best books I have ever seen on Linux were at
> > http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/ and are entirely free. I have looked at
> > various store bought books and never found one worth the money asked for
>
> Hi, I downloaded the linux users guide from the above site. I got the
> pdf version since I'm a newbie and figured printing it out would be
> faster and easier to use acrobat under windows. Is there a way to change
> the fonts? the document is almost unreadable. I never had this problem
> with a pdf file before, just this one. I do have access to the full
> acrobat software, but dont know much about it. I wonder why it isnt
> available in plain text so I could get a decent printout.
try the ps version
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