Linux-Misc Digest #840, Volume #18 Sun, 31 Jan 99 15:13:08 EST
Contents:
Re: dial-up web server? (William Burrow)
Re: Fonts, can hardly read anything ("Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus")
Re: newbie GCC problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Java ICQ (Mykool)
Re: Question on which Linux to use and books? (Gary Momarison)
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Log Files (Gary Momarison)
Re: JDK 1.1.7 for Linux... (Per Dalsten Sorensen)
Re: Which files?? (Gary Momarison)
Re: Linux-installation (Gary Momarison)
Re: JDK 1.1.7 for Linux...
Getting Linux to Recognize New Drive
Re: could someone suggest a window manager for me? (Michael Perry)
Re: dial-up web server? (steve mcadams)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: dial-up web server?
Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:27:03 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:32:53 GMT,
David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 1/30/99, 7:16:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams) wrote
>regarding Re: dial-up web server?:
>> >On Sat, 30 Jan 1999 15:34:25 GMT,
>> > steve mcadams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>> >>Is there a way that I can set up my Linux box (currently running
>> >>SuSE
>> >>5.3) so that it will somehow call up my ISP, and "register" itself
>> >>as
>> >>a web-server that supports my InterNIC domain?
To do this simply requires either a dynamic DNS service as outlined
before, or a static IP.
>> Is this something that my ISP determines? ie, can I ask/pay them for
>> a static ip-address? I would assume the answer to be yes, but know
>> very little of the mechanisms involved. -steve
It may be possible, though I don't think very many if any supply a static
IP for intermittent dialup. Not sure what you are thinking of doing, but
it sounds like you want a permanent connection in any case. A persistent
connection (which is possible through modem), would usually entail a
static IP (though some services use DHCP, I think for modems static IP
is the norm).
>How did you get an Internic domain without any IP address or
>nameservers (2 nameservers are required).
It is quite easy, his web host applies for a domain name pointing to
the host server. Usually, the web provider is registered as administrator
and technical contact. The web provider takes care of providing at least
one of the name servers. This happens everyday. However, I see that Steve
is registered the contact for his domain in this case.
So it would be easy for Steve to notify CSN to add a new machine name
pointing to a static domain his ISP set up for him. He could then
redirect the browser where desired to his home machine from the main
host server.
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William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
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From: "Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Fonts, can hardly read anything
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 05:39:36 +1100
G'day Michael...
> Michael> For Netscape, select Edit -> Preferences -> Appearance ->
> Michael> Fonts and modify appropriately.
>
> This had no effect on fontification in my version of netcrap. I
> suspect you have to turn off the option to use the web-page fonts.
I think you've just answered your own question.... =)
All the best...
Michael.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: newbie GCC problem
Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:45:54 GMT
In his obvious haste, Gary Helbig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled thusly:
: Hello,
: I'm having a little problem with gcc (RedHat 5.2 install)
: If I try to compile a program that ends in '.c', all is OK.
: If I try to compile a program that ends in '.C', I get an error:
: gcc: installation problem, cannot exec `cc1plus': No such file or directory
Simple.
I think you'll find that filenames are case dependent on unix-a-likes, and
a .c extention means a C source file, and a .C extension indicates a C++
source file....
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From: Mykool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Java ICQ
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 17:03:59 +0000
RCT wrote:
>
> Question and or Opinions I wanted to have the Java version of Icq
> installed on my Linux box,, I have heard from some "Linux Experts" to
> stay away from java??? Why??? And if I want to use some sort of
> online system like ICQ what should I use???
>
> Thanks
> Chaz
Most people like to stay away from java because it is a resource hog. I
use java ICQ, but it doesn't look like it is using too much. Probably
the most popular ICQ client is licq. I used it for a while, but didn't
like it. One that I didn't try but looks real good, is GtkICQ. The
screenshots I've seen of it look pretty nice.
PS If you use java ICQ, you might not want to use the jdk from their
site. All I know is it didn't work for me and always caused a crash at
the same place.
--
Michael Barnhill
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http://www.prism.gatech.edu/~gte294f
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Question on which Linux to use and books?
Date: 31 Jan 1999 10:17:50 -0800
"JHY-YEUAN WANG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am looking to install Linux into a Pentium II 350 PC. As I visit this
> news group, I found out there are many different Linux, i.e. Red Hat,
> Slackware, SuSE, ... .
> Can anybody give some suggestion about which one to use. My goal is to
> install an Apache web server on Linux. The workstation connected to it will
> be a Win95 station.
> Also, can you suggest some books about Linux, Apache?
Running Linux is good. One of the compilations of LDP HOWTOs and guides
is also a good investment.
Check out:
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/distributions.html > info on Red Hat, SuSe, etc.
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/internet.html > info on Apache, etc.
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/books.html
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/installing-linux.html
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Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 31 Jan 1999 17:13:55 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Michael 'BeLFrY' S. E. Kraus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently scribe:
: G'day...
:> Yes, he's british. No, he doesn't talk funny.
:> (that's what americans, australians and all those other bally foreigners are
:> for)
: Hey... we don't talk funny you guys do...! =) (Well, its certainly not "The
:Queen's English"
: is it?) =P ;)
The Queen's not English! She's German....
:)
(I'm having a sudden feeling of deja vu. I could've sworn I'd answered this
before via e-mail.... Oh well)
P.S. Your line length is way off. It should be set to about 75 to be usenet
compliant.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.linux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Advice for Microsoft-haters
Date: 31 Jan 1999 16:35:33 GMT
In the sacred domain of comp.os.linux.misc didst Arthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> eloquently
scribe:
: There are some differences in vocabularly - my niece
: married a Brit. They had an outdoor wedding and everyone
: was helping put up a big tent. It was a hot day and
: the bride's father had been driving stakes, when one
: of the groom's friends from England came over said,
: "Would you like me to blow you?" - meaning "take over
: the job and give you a break". There was some
: explanation required - in the US that would refer
: what Ms. Lewinsky did to Clinton.
Hmmm... Must be regional.
That's what it sounded like from where I was sitting....
:)
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Log Files
Date: 31 Jan 1999 10:51:09 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Grossman) writes:
> Hello,
>
> Is there a program out there that will allow me to read all of my log
> files in a nice and easy format? Or maybe one that will e-mail the
> logs to me on a daily basis?
Look for "Log files" in http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/sys-admin.html
--
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
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From: Per Dalsten Sorensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: JDK 1.1.7 for Linux...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 11:02:56 PST
It is not clear from your post whether you actually compiled your
program first.
If not, try 'javac Hello.java' and then you should be able to run it
with 'java Hello'.
Otherwise take a look at your CLASSPATH.
-Per
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joe) writes:
> I downloaded and installed it as instructed by readme. When I typed
> the following simple program in PICO under X,
>
>
> class Hello {
>
> public static void main (String args[]) {
>
> System.out.print ("Hello, World!");
>
> }
> }
>
>
> and do
>
> java Hello
>
> It says "java class not found" or something like that. What am I doing
> wrong? Optionally, could you please give me a pointer to a good Java
> programming in Linux page or two? Thanks in advance.
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which files??
Date: 31 Jan 1999 11:05:45 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ian Dunross) writes:
> I've got the bandwidth and drive space to download the Red Hat 5.2
> distribution. But which directories to d/l??
>
> I don't need the sources. I am going to use
> ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/.
>
> As best I can tell I need to d/l:
>
> ftp://ftp.cdrom.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-5.2/i386/RedHat/*.*
Interesting question here. Who's software is interpreting the "*.*"?
Under standard Unix SW, "*.*" would miss some files with ".".
I don't know how to install Linux from a download. Doesn't
http://www.redhat.com tell you? There are a couple resources
on this under "Red Hat" in
http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/installing-linux.html
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From: Gary Momarison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux-installation
Date: 31 Jan 1999 11:12:54 -0800
"Leif K=F6ldahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hello.
> I have a problem.
> I wanna install linux on my computer. I have the RedHat-CD's.
> So what's the problem ?
> On my computer i have Windows98 installed, and i wanna keep it that way=
=2E Do
> i have to make separat partitions for w98 and linux ? Can i do it some =
other
> way ? I have so much stuff on my computer it would take days to copy al=
l my
> files to floppy. Is there some OS-manager i can use?
> Can someone give me advice?
My advice is to not do things for which you are not reasonably prepared.
If you can't back up your harddisk, then you are not reasonably prepared
to shrink partitions, mess with the partition table, etc. If you MUST
install Linux before buying decent backup, then at least buy another disk=
for Linux and and boot Linux off a floppy that the Linux installation
software will offer to make for you.
-- =
Look for Linux info at http://www.dejanews.com/home_ps.shtml and in
Gary's Encyclopedia at http://www.aa.net/~swear/pedia/index.html
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From: nonet@chain ()
Subject: Re: JDK 1.1.7 for Linux...
Date: 31 Jan 1999 19:22:55 GMT
Joe ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I downloaded and installed it as instructed by readme. When I typed
: the following simple program in PICO under X,
: class Hello {
: public static void main (String args[]) {
: System.out.print ("Hello, World!");
: }
: }
: and do
: java Hello
: It says "java class not found" or something like that. What am I doing
: wrong? Optionally, could you please give me a pointer to a good Java
: programming in Linux page or two? Thanks in advance.
First, we need to know what version of the JDK for linux you have.
You SHOULD get blackdown's port. www.blackdown.org Get the
version of JDK117A that's right for your library (libc or glib).
If you have a recent version of RedHat, go with glib. It's better.
If that doesn't work, back off to libc. There's a HOWTO on glibc
as well. Think about upgrading soon.
OK. Now that you have JDK117 for Linux FROM BLACKDOWN installed,
you need to add the /bin folder of the JDK to your path. Here,
you need to get into your shell rc file or something. It all
differs based on your shell, so do what's needed to get the
/bin folder of the JDK in the path.
Now, find out where you're hitting the JDK. RedHat ships with
an awful, cruddy version of a JVM. We need to make sure we hit
blackdown, not that guavac crap. Type:
which java
If you DON'T see it hitting the /bin folder you just added to the
path, you're instead getting guavac. This is bad because guavac
(God bless them), requires a classpath setting, is buggy as hell,
and does not comply with Sun's Java benchmarks. In otherwords, it's
a hack.
OK. cd to the directory where you're hitting this bad version of
java and javac. Rename the files:
mv java shitty_version_of_java
etc. etc. You'll have to do this for all the tools: javadoc,
javap, javac, java, etc. Just to:
ls | grep jav
Tto get a listing.
Now, you should be hitting blackdown's port. Verify with:
java
>From there, it should work well without having to set a classpath
variable, etc. etc.
Cheers,
nonet
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From: nonet@chain ()
Subject: Getting Linux to Recognize New Drive
Date: 31 Jan 1999 19:28:08 GMT
Hi,
A quick, really stupid question. I never had to do this before, so
I'm lost. I just got a new drive (well, used, but it's new to me.)
How do I get Linux to recognize this new drive and create the /dev/hdXXYY
listings I need?
I really don't want to use this as a window drive, but that's the
only way I can get it be recognized.
Also, I've been booting linux from a floppy (make bzdisk) since I
had another OS on the drive. Now, I just deleted Windows entirely
and am going 100% linux. So, there's no need for a floppy boot any
more.
I tried:
cd /usr/src/linux
make dep; make clean; make bzImage
lilo
But I'm told the kernel is TOO big.
How does one put the kernel on a diet, OR, is there a way to
get this fat kernel in the MBR?
Thanks SOOOOOO much,
nonet
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Michael Perry)
Subject: Re: could someone suggest a window manager for me?
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 09:01:46 -0800
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:06:39 -0600, Eric Wyles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am currently using KDE, which I really like, but it is a memory hog.
>I have 64 MB and if I do a fresh boot and then start X and KDE, my
>memory is completely full. I can start X with fvwm2 and then StarOffice
>and still have about 15-20 meg free. This is ok, but I really don't
>like fvwm2. I would like to find something where I am not forced to
>have more that one virtual desktop. If someone could tell me how to
>turn that feature off in fvwm2 that would be a big help. I never use
>more than one desktop (I just minimize everything), and the placement of
>the desktop selector in fvwm2 is very inconvenient because it cover up
>my scrollbars when I have a window maximized. If anyone could suggest a
>good window manager and where to get it, or tell me how to customize
>fvwm2, I would appreciate it.
>
>Thanks,
>Eric
>
My wife really likes kde so she has an account and likes to play the games
and fool around with it. With SuSE one can move a .fvwm2rc file to be
used easily and thats what I use. I tend to remove the fvwm button bar
from it, use tkdesk, customize the work menu, add some other things to
start up like the pager and some xeyes. I like fvwm2 quite a bit when I
get done making changes to it. With tkdesk, I have a file manager and a
bar I can add apps to quite easily with attractive icons.
I dont use staroffice here so cannot comment on memory issues with it. I
do use applix, wingz, and wordperfect 8 here and they all work without a
hitch. Sometimes a little modification to a rather boring wm can yield
surprising results. I particularly like tools like tkdesk.
--
Michael E. Perry
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (steve mcadams)
Subject: Re: dial-up web server?
Date: Sun, 31 Jan 1999 16:24:19 GMT
[Snipped for brevity, quoted material marked with ">"]
On Sun, 31 Jan 1999 14:32:53 GMT, David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>How did you get an Internic domain without any IP address or
>nameservers (2 nameservers are required).
I talked with the guy at my ISP who does their network setup, and
asked him what ip-addresses to use so that my domain would point to
theirs. Then I plugged these into the Internic form and shipped it.
>Once you get nameservers that can point to your IP (see other note
>about services for dynamic IP's) and set the hostname on your machine
>to match, all you have to do is fire up apache and you are on the web.
Sorry, you lost me here somewhere. As I said, I am mostly clueless
about how server administration is done (it's not something I've ever
done). -steve
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