Linux-Misc Digest #204, Volume #20               Fri, 14 May 99 14:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?) (Christopher B. 
Browne)
  Re: Debian: still viable? (Marco Anglesio)
  Re: kernel compile error (Iain A F Fleming)
  Control Panel problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Strange password problem (The Graphical Gnome)
  Re: Networking Linux (Fernando Sanabria)
  Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (Michael Powe)
  Re: fdisk /MBR ??? ("J�rgen Exner")
  Re: page faults (jason)
  Re: epson drivers (Rod Smith)
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (Ken Arromdee)
  Re: Long file names in Linux? (TRG Software : Tim Greer)
  Re: New user needing help (John Taylor)
  need help ("matgorb")
  Need a program to exercise/test the computer hardware (Lee Allen)
  Re: page faults ("D. Vrabel")
  wu-ftpd guest problems (Clemens Resanka)
  Re: [?] problem w/ TeX under RH 6.0 (Tom Fawcett)
  Re: man anything gives a blank screen and END (John Allman)
  Parallel scanner and SANE (gm)
  Slack 3.6 and StarOffice seg fault (Chris Zimmerman)
  Re: system hangs #3 (Frank Waarsenburg)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher B. Browne)
Crossposted-To:  comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Proper use of /usr/local (Re: The Best Linux distribution?)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:54:42 GMT

On Fri, 14 May 1999 07:02:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted:
>In article <7hg32i$2sb7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Leslie Mikesell) wrote:
>
>> I have an assortment of local utility programs that I keep in
>> /usr/local/bin that aren't part of any distribution.  I want them
>> to still be there after mkfs'ing every partition that had anything
>> included in the system install (assuming, of course that /usr/local
>> is on it's own partition or is a symlink to one not used by the
>> system).
>
>Ahh... now it becomes more clear.
>
>"System" files go in /usr -- we both agree here.
>"Custom" files go in /usr/local -- again we both agree.
>
>Now there's the tricky issue of "standard" packages, which you seem to
>think should go in /usr [so that they'll be upgraded with the rest of
>the system], whereas us *BSD-heads insist they go in /usr/local with the
>other non-system stuff.

The tricky issue is that there are two kinds of "custom" things:

a) Custom things that are being managed in automated fashion by
distribution-related tools, and

b) Custom things that are being managed by hand.

The "Linux contention" is that these two kinds of things may get updated in
different manners, and thus should be kept separate.

For instance, I might be using ILU as a "custom thing" at my site; from one
persective, that's "not really part of the system," and thus doesn't fit
into /usr.

But I'm using the automated tool, dpkg, to manage its installation, and so
would prefer to not stick it in the "free-for-all" area, /usr/local.

That might thereby imply that it *really* should go into /opt; I think that
the crucial point here wherein likes the "disconnect" that has been
happening is that there's two kinds of things being done in /usr/local, and
the "Linux approach" (at least with FHS) rejects one of them, namely
"sticking things in /usr/local that aren't being managed by hand."

>> There is also an assortment of locally tweaked programs
>> that need to checked on a case-by-case basis as to whether this
>> distribution version is better than mine.
>
>Okay, I see what you're doing now.  You're using /usr as both the
>location of the system files as well as a *staging* area for
>/usr/local.  That's pure insanity.  Rather than sticking standard
>packages in /usr to keep them out of the way of what's in /usr/local
>[until you decide to make the contents of /usr the 'live' version],
>wouldn't it just be simpler not to *install* the packages until you're
>sure you want them?  Once you're sure that the distribution version is
>the one you want, it doesn't conflict with your way of doing things to
>simply install it in /usr/local.

It's less "purely insane" than you're suggesting.

- The packaging tools are there to make sure that when packages are dribbled
into /usr, they *don't* conflict with one another.

- In practice, packages tend to be reasonably well-behaved.  This seems to
be a little more forcibly true for Debian, and a little less true for
RPM-based distributions, but doesn't normally cause problems.

-- 
Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.  
-- Henry Spencer          <http://www.hex.net/~cbbrowne/lsf.html>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - "What have you contributed to free software today?..."

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Anglesio)
Subject: Re: Debian: still viable?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 14:46:44 GMT

On 14 May 1999 07:29:44 -0400, Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rpms and dpkgs have different information and I doubt they can be
>seamlessly translated (if they could, claims of dpkg's technical
>superiority would be baseless).

What alien does is unpackage the rpm, then repackage it as a deb. However,
dpkg has and enforces dependencies; rpm->deb conversions are merely built
with nothing by way of dependencies. 

marco

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From: Iain A F Fleming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel compile error
Date: 14 May 1999 15:47:12 +0100


The entity calling itself James Chang wrote:
> 
>  During kernel compiling, I met the error message as following
>  "cs4234.o(.text+0x81): undefined reference to 'ad1848_detect'"

>  Could anybody tell me the meaning of error message and how to solve the
>  problem?

The object file cs4234.o, at text offset 0x81, has a reference to an
external object (a funcuion, I suspect - I don't have Linuc source on my
Solais machine), and it is not defind in any object file included in the
link. Thus the linker cannot resolve the reference, and so emits this error
message.

Hoew to fix it: find out what file the symbol 'ad1848_detect' is defined in,
and then work out why the object created from that file wasn't built and
included in the link. Or indeed, why cs4234.o was referencing it...

Either way may bring enloghtenment.

(And did you remember to clean out the tree before you built the kernel?)

-- 
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 Spider Software Ltd  Leith  Scotland  +44.131.475.7045

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Control Panel problem
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 16:41:39 GMT

I am running Linux RedHat 5.0 on a 486/66 with 32 mg
ram, a generic video card in VGA mode with 512k
memory, 640x480x16.

When I run startx and come up to my menu system,
control panel is not there (name is, but no icon). I
can go to xterm and input this command 'control-panel
& ' and up comes an error message ' unable to find
usable depth '.

Is this a video problem?

What makes me suspect is that I get a similar message
after starting Netscape, and the colors go haywire on
the screen, Netscape works fine, but the colors flash
when going back to the desktop.

Do I need more memory on the card or is there a
config file that needs to be edited?

Thanks for any help in advance

Terry


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From: The Graphical Gnome <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange password problem
Date: 14 May 1999 14:03:48 GMT

Robert Hull <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
<U2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Robert Thomas
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>>Rob Fisher wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> How long is your passwd? Unix only uses the first eight characters of
>>> the passwd, so the ninth letter onward are igonred. 
>
>>You are right.
>[snip]
>>
>>Eight characters seems to me to
>>be too short for a really secure system, don't you think?
>>
>If you are using mix and match with upper and lower case alpha together
>with numerics, you have over 218 000 000 000 000 possible combinations
>of password, is that not secure enough for you ?

    218 340 105 584 896 possibilities  (to be precise)

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From: Fernando Sanabria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Networking Linux
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 11:34:18 -0500

You need network cards in both systems
If you only want to connect 2 machines you can use a crossover cable and
plug the systems back to back without a hub

Julia Cristina Varela de Montoya wrote:

> I am fairly new to linux.  I have an old Pentium with linux and Oracle 8
> running.  I would like to create a network in my home using it and my
> current Windows machine.  The purpose is mainly to learn networking, and
> perhaps gain some functionality.  Does anyone have any suggestions as to
> configurations, hardware, software, etc?
>
> Thank you.



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel
From: Michael Powe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 14 May 1999 09:46:48 -0700

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>>>>> "Richard" == Richard Caley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Richard> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Steve
    Richard> Lamb (sl) writes:
    >>> And the problems you've had with ports are what, exactly?

    sl> The whole concept of it.  The fact that it is cobbled together
    sl> from a zillion different sources.  There is no central
    sl> repository which means when any one of the things in ports
    sl> changes, might as well throw away the whole tree.

    Richard> So, to be clear, you're happier downloading some
    Richard> pre-compiled binary from god knows what teenaged hackers
    Richard> jokeshop than getting the sources for what you want from
    Richard> wherever it officially lives, and patches for FBSD from
    Richard> FBSD? Boy you love to live dangerously.

Why don't you give an example of the "pre-compiled binary from god
knows what teenaged hackers jokeshop"?  I know you wouldn't be just
shooting off your mouth, you must actually have some product in mind.

mp

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From: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,alt.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: fdisk /MBR ???
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 08:50:31 -0700
Reply-To: "J�rgen Exner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Christopher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7hg1e2$9oq$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
[...]
> crank crank crank ... while ya wait. Maybe someone has fixed lilo by now
> but last year if you had 12 gigs and didn't want it partitioned... you
> were in for a suprise.

Well, actually that's not very surprising.
It's a BIOS limitation and you can hardly blame LILO for it.
The ancient CHS addressing method used by the BIOS for boot strapping can
not support more than 8GB.
But what's so bad about creating a tiny 5MB boot partition?

jue
--
J�rgen Exner




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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: page faults
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:11:19 -0400


Hmm... I don't know, I was so sure it was the memory!  Well, it could be  
that your motherboard is being picky about which slots you are putting
your RAM in.  I know that the Abit BH6 is like this (I have one).  I'm not
sure whether that would cause the types of problems you're seeing, but I  
imagine its possible.  Another possibility is heat.  I've had my system
lock up completely almost every time it gets to be around 40 Celsius
inside my computer, though I've never seen page fault messages when this  
happens.  Maybe you can try re-seating your RAM, or failing that, try
moving the chips to different banks?

-jason

(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rod Smith)
Subject: Re: epson drivers
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:02:46 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Posted and mailed]

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Edwin Johnson) writes:
> Actually, the Epson 640 is _not_ a Windows only printer, the 400 & 440 are
> such. Epson, however, did leave out some of the standard printer codes from
> the 640 which are all in the 600.

This isn't true of the ESC 400, either.  I'm using one from Linux and
OS/2, and it works fine in both OSes.  I've never used an ESC 440, but I
suspect the same is true of it, too.

-- 
Rod Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.channel1.com/users/rodsmith
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Arromdee)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 14 May 1999 11:12:36 -0400

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Christopher B. Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Yup!  Same money, more wealth.
>The fact that they may get to toss a VCR into the picture and further
>"enhance" the lifestyle with some porno flicks represents a pretty dubious
>increase in wealth.
>
>The point here is not to denigrate poor folk; it is to suggest that wealth
>is not solely in the size of the TV set.

"Not solely" and "not at all" aren't the same thing.
-- 
Ken Arromdee                    |They said it was *daft* to build a space
[EMAIL PROTECTED]            |station in a swamp, but I showed them!  It
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                |sank into the swamp.  So I built a second
http://www.inetnow.net/~arromdee|space station.  That sank into the swamp too.
================================+My third space station sank into the swamp.
So I built a fourth one.  That fell into a time warp and _then_ sank into the
swamp.  But the fifth one...  stayed up! --Monty Python/Babylon 5

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Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 00:41:57 -0700
From: TRG Software : Tim Greer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Long file names in Linux?

Russell Tanton wrote:
> 
> How do I configure Linux to use long file names?  (i.e.- so everything
> does not get cut off at filenum~1)
> 
> Rusty

Don't copy them over from Windows. :-)
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From: John Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: New user needing help
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:28:01 +0100

Jon Skeet wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > I bought the Redhat 5.2 version a few months ago. After installing it
> > the first time, I found the interface to be a little intimidating (both
> > command line and X).
> >
> > I guess one of my biggest problems is the lack of support for commands,
> > kind of like trying to figure out DOS commands. Does anyone know where I
> > can find a comprehensive listing of commands, and their variables?
> 
> Man pages are your friend - but I agree, it's often tricky to guess what
> you have to "man" in the first place. This is where apropos is useful.
> For example, typing "apropos dir" will list all the man pages which have
> "dir" in their subject.
> 
> I once considered doing a DOS<->Unix translation table, but never got
> round to it... I'm sure if you come up with a list of DOS commands you
> want on Unix, someone here would be happy to translate them for you where
> possible.
> 

Try the DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO
This list all the commonly used DOS commands with Linux equivalents
and explains Linux concepts is DOS terms:
ftp://sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk/Mirrors/sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO

JohnT

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From: "matgorb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: need help
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:06:32 +0200

I want to use a win95 prog on linux is it possible ?
This is a very good html editor in french named Webexpert (Aceexpert in US)
so if it's not possible i search a linux html editor like it (it mean
notcomplete WYSIWYG but with some function and in french if possible) My
other proble is that i don't know how to install new program on linux
especelly those which i dowload on the ne .
IF someone could help me...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Allen)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Need a program to exercise/test the computer hardware
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:05:23 GMT

I am looking for a test program that can be used to exercise, test &
diagnose PC hardware, under Linux.  This is for Intel based systems.

Does anyone know of such a package?

-Lee Allen
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: page faults
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:32:11 +0100

On 14 May 1999, Bob Tennent wrote:

> On Thu, 13 May 1999 13:08:40 -0400, jason wrote:
>  >
>  >Bad memory is a very likely possibility.  I bought new RAM last year that was
>  >bad upon arrival.  I used this excellent program to test it and verify it
>  >was bad:
>  >
>  >http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/hardware/memtest86-1.4a.tar.gz
>  >
> OK, I've tested my RAM using memtest and it detected no errors.
> So what *else* might be causing apparently random page faults?
Cosmic rays.  You can't really test for randomly failing memory without
running the tests for a long time. 

David
--
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Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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From: Clemens Resanka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: wu-ftpd guest problems
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:26:18 GMT

hi all!

i just tried to setup a guest-user in wu-ftpd-2.4.2b18-2.1
the user can login, but he cannot list any directory, but he can
download, if he knows the path. I've set the the filepermission of
~ftp/pub to 775 so ls should be possible.

here's my ftpaccess file:
=====================================================
class   all  real,guest  *
guestgroup ftpguest
upload  /home/ftp  *               no
upload  /home/ftp  /pub/incoming       yes  ftp  daemon  0666
email root@localhost
loginfails 5
readme  README*    login
readme  README*    cwd=*
message /welcome.msg            login
message .message                cwd=*
log transfers anonymous,guest,real inbound,outbound
shutdown /etc/shutmsg
passwd-check rfc822 warn
=====================================================

root@truman /home/ftp # vi /etc/ftpaccess 
root@truman /home/ftp # ls -l bin 
total 46
---x--x--x   1 root     root        45496 May 14 15:16 ls
root@truman /home/ftp # ls -l etc
total 2
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          426 May 14 16:15 group
-r--r--r--   1 root     root          648 May 14 15:30 passwd
root@truman /home/ftp # ls -ld . pub
drwxr-xr-x   5 root     root         1024 May 14 16:04 .
drwxrwxr-x   6 root     ftp          1024 May 14 15:25 pub

here's the user's passwd entry (without the pw)
test::503:105:Test:/home/ftp/./pub/:/etc/ftponly

and the group entry
ftpguest::105:test

and here is what happens when test logs in:
root@truman /home/ftp # ftp 0 
Connected to 0.
220 truman FTP server (Version wu-2.4.2-academ[BETA-18](1) Mon Jan 18
22:33:28 EST 1999) ready.
Name (0:clemens): test
331 Password required for test.
Password:
230 User flo logged in.  Access restrictions apply.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> ls
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
226 Transfer complete.
ftp> pwd
257 "/pub" is current directory.

But /home/ftp/pub IS NOT empty:
root@truman /home/ftp # ls -l /home/ftp/pub
total 4
drwxrwxr-x  10 ftp      ftp          1024 Apr 11 20:00 Linux
drwxrwxr-x   7 ftp      ftp          1024 Apr 11 20:00 Pilot
drwxrwxr-x  10 ftp      ftp          1024 Apr 26 22:34 Windoze
drwxrwxrwx   2 root     ftp          1024 May 14 15:05 incoming

what am i doing wrong?

-- 
So far...

  - Clemens -

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From: Tom Fawcett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [?] problem w/ TeX under RH 6.0
Date: 14 May 1999 10:43:45 -0400


Francisco Cribari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I have just upgraded from Red Hat 5.2 to version 6.0 (intel). I am
> having a few problems. One of them is that I can no longer compile 
> a number of TeX files. Here is what happens (e.g.):
> 
> [cribari@edgeworth texfiles]$ pwd
> /home/cribari/projects/white/texfiles
> [cribari@edgeworth texfiles]$ tex white
> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.3)
> (white.tex (/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/misc/psfig.tex
> psfig/tex 1.9
> ) (/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/misc/17point.tex
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/plain/misc/10point.tex)kpathsea: Running mktextfm  cmr17
> mktextfm: Running mf \mode:=ljfour; mag:=1; nonstopmode; input cmr17
> This is METAFONT, Version 2.7182 (Web2C 7.3)
> 
> (/usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/jknappen/sauter/cmr17.mf
> (/usr/share/texmf/fonts/source/jknappen/sauter/b-cmr.mfkpathsea: Running mktexmf  
>cmbase
> 
> ! I can't find file `cmbase'.
>[etc]

The first thing I'd try is to run texconfig and reinitialize the
installation (or perhaps it was never initialized in the first place).
At least reinitialize the ls-lR database and font paths.
AFAIK you have to do this when upgrading since there are aspects of
the installation that can't be set up automatically by RPM.

-Tom

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From: John Allman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: man anything gives a blank screen and END
Date: 12 May 1999 13:32:39 GMT

it's not just in an xterm. it's at the command line.

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From: gm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Parallel scanner and SANE
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 17:30:31 GMT

Has anyone been able to get the DigitalResearch 600P parallel
port scanner to work with sane?

Thanks,
Gene


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From: Chris Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Slack 3.6 and StarOffice seg fault
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 10:10:11 -0500

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A coworker of mine installed linuxthreads on his machine (version 0.71)
and the libs for X-windows so he could run X11amp.  This seems to have
broken StarOffice.  Anytime he runs either the binary for star or the
setup, he gets a seg fault.  Anyone seen this or have any suggestions?
How can I restore the system to its original libs (if that is truely the

problem) without re-installing?

Thanks,
Chris Zimmerman

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From: Frank Waarsenburg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: system hangs #3
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 13:47:51 +0200

I have the same problem. Since I don't use sendmail (yet), I disabled it. BTW,
the system does not hang, but it takes several minutes before it goes on booting
- far beyond my patience level... As far as I recall, the problem started as
soon as I changed the resolv.conf file telling the system where to look for
nameservers. Since ppp and related services are not yet configured, my guess is
that it tries to connect to the nameserver and it cannot reach it. It sure has
something to do with DNS...

Frank


Al Goins wrote:

> None of these solutions have worked.  The system still hangs in multi-user
> mode when sendmail starts.
> any other suggestions?
> -Al
> mist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed to us that -
> > >In <7h58ji$1th$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Albert Goins"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >writes:
> > >
> > >>I am kind of new to linux and have no idea how to solve this problem.  I
> > >>have Red Hat 5.1 installed and it was working fine but now for some
> reason
> > >>my system hangs while it is booting when it gets to starting sendmail.
> I
> > >>don't need sendmail as I don't have networking right now but I don't
> know
> > >>how to boot my machine now.  What can i do?
> > >
> > >Probably looking for some name resolution.
> > >Anyway, at lilo
> > >linux single
> > >will put you into single user mode as root.
> > >
> >
> > <snip instructions for disabling sendmail>
> >
> > Or you could fix it.  Then the various programs that rely on Sendmail
> > will still be able to use it.  (eg, for local mail transfer, etc.)  It's
> > trying to resolve it's own domain-name, which is probably set up wrongly
> > (as default) in the /etc/sendmail.cf
> >
> > Look for the line where it talks about "my official domain name", and
> > change it to, say
> >
> > Dlocalhost.localdomain
> >
> > and just make sure that /etc/hosts has
> >
> > 127.0.0.1   localhost   localhost.localdomain
> >
> > in it.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mist.
>
> Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:7h59s8$pbf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > In <7h58ji$1th$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Albert Goins"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > >I am kind of new to linux and have no idea how to solve this problem.  I
> > >have Red Hat 5.1 installed and it was working fine but now for some
> reason
> > >my system hangs while it is booting when it gets to starting sendmail.  I
> > >don't need sendmail as I don't have networking right now but I don't know
> > >how to boot my machine now.  What can i do?
> >
> > Probably looking for some name resolution.
> > Anyway, at lilo
> > linux single
> > will put you into single user mode as root.
> >
> > cd /etc/rc.d
> > for i in 1 2 3 4 5
> > do
> > mv rc$i.d/S80sendmail rc$i.d/K30sendmail
> > done
> >
> The files are already named this!
>
> -Al Goins
>
> > That's it.
> >
> >
>
> --
> Albert Goins
> University of Minnesota Twin Cities
> Computer Science
> Lab Consultant EE/Csci 4-204, MechE 308
> ICQ# 31412664
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.itlabs.umn.edu/~goin0004


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