Linux-Misc Digest #247, Volume #20               Tue, 18 May 99 07:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  SBLive with SuSE 6.0..How? (David Tansley)
  Re: G-N-O-M-E  as default instead of Fvwm ("Itzik S.")
  Re: corel wordperfect 8 for linux (Mark Tranchant)
  Sound Device Problm (Jason Bond)
  Re: No space left on device (Jon Skeet)
  Re: printing problem (James Lee)
  Re: Symbolic Link (Lee Sau Dan ~{@nJX6X~})
  Re: moving directories ("Kevin Huang")
  pc speaker (Dustin Puryear)
  Re: silly windows (Jon Skeet)
  Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36 ("Axel H�lzer")
  Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522) (Mike Willett 
LADS LDN X7563)
  Very Strange Sound Problem: Please Help (Chris Wilson)
  Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines (Swietanowski Artur)
  advice partion etc ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  imblib - libpng ("gunslinger")
  Partiton Problem With RedHat 5.2 ("Simon Gaukroger")
  dvd ("Justin Paulsen")
  Re: What's wrong with this kernel??? (Andrei Lebedev)
  Interference on screen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: What's wrong with this kernel??? (Marc)
  Re: A simple (reliable) browser ("D. Vrabel")
  Re: Eudora-like mail program for linux? (With Filters etc) (Steve Lamb)
  Re: How do you PRINT SCREEN ? (Andrew Chung)
  Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines (Keith)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Tansley)
Subject: SBLive with SuSE 6.0..How?
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 07:48:12 GMT

Hi all..

Unbelievably, I've so far managed to solve all of my problem with Linux, 
and now have a reasonably stable and fast setup. Stable and fast, though 
totally silent, which is a shame because my SBLive Value card is just 
dying to get it's silicon paws on X11Amp.....but no matter what I do I 
can't get the bugger to work.

Okay, here's what I've done so far: recompiled the kernel to include 
sound support as a module (I also included support for /dev/dsp and 
/dev/audio, but no other sound card...is this right?).
Downloaded the new Creative SBLive drivers, and executed the install 
script....it all worked, no errors reported. Rebooted and...nadda.

If I try insmod soundcore, I get a message saying no module called 
soundcore. If I try modprobe sblive I get a lot of message saying 
unresolved symbols or something.

Has anyone managed to get this to work? 

(I'm running SuSE 6.0 with a 2.0.36 kernel by the way)

Cheers

-- 
Dave

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From: "Itzik S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: G-N-O-M-E  as default instead of Fvwm
Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 15:52:38 +0200

Should be GNOME , sorry.

"Gero H. Marten" wrote:
> 
> "Itzik S." wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I'm trying to set G-N-O-M-E to be default instead if Fvwm,
> > but with no success.
> > Can anybody help ?
> > Thanks,
> > Itzik.
> 
> What is Gnum please?
> 
> --
> Gero H. Marten
> <http://www.provi.de/gmarten/index.html>
> --

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From: Mark Tranchant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.rpm,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: corel wordperfect 8 for linux
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:06:27 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What?! How? Unless you have specific advice, please don't hurl guesses
about. I'm not saying it isn't a kernel problem, but more help would be
nice.

Does Filtrix convert anything else? My guess would be the C library - if
this has changed 'twixt RH5.2 and RH6.0, and Filtrix uses calls that
have changed or disappeared, it'll be in trouble. Try isolating the
particular executable that does the work, if you can, and see if it'll
run on its own without segfaulting.

Mark.

Bo Vandenberg wrote:
> 
> It may be a kernel issue.
> 
> XET Elec wrote:
> 
> > Hi:
> >
> > I've just installed Redhat 6.0 on a blank hard drive. I had been using
> > Redhat 5.2 with Corel WordPerfect 8 on this machine, but for several
> > reasons I blanked the disk and started over. I reinstalled WordPerfect,
> > and I've found that I now can't properly open Microsoft Word 6/7/8
> > files. I get a "Filtrix can't convert the file" error.  Previously, I
> > had been able to read the exact same files when I was running on Redhat
> > 5.2
> >
> > Does anyone know of a reason this might be? In every other way I've
> > tested, WordPerfect runs fine.
> >
> > Thanks. Please copy any responses to my email, if you would.
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Jason Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Device Problm
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:42:23 -0700


I'm trying to install a mp3 player and when I try and run a mp3 file it
says

Error opening output device (mpg123 reported:"Can't open /dev/dsp!")

Cd's seem to play fine on my system.  Which device is used to play
sound?  Is there some permissions problem that I'm having?  Thanks
kindly,

  Jason




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: No space left on device
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:09:08 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > The filesystem saves 10% of the partition space for root, so that when
> > the fs fills up, root is able to get in to rescue things. If it filled
> > up completely, root might well also be locked out and you would have to
> > reformat and reinstall ( a horrible solution to the problem).

> Surely you wouldn't have to do this.  Couldn't you just boot using a
> rescue disk and mount the offending filesystem.

Sure - if you had physical access to the machine every time that 
happened. The idea of keeping a bit of space free for root instead seems 
a better approach to me - who knows how many times someone's had to login 
remotely to remove some rubbish from club's hard disk when a load of 
engineers have a deadline... ;)

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: James Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: printing problem
Date: 17 May 1999 14:14:20 -0500

In comp.os.linux.setup Brandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

: im just taking a wild guess here, literaly, but are the permisions for
: lpr set so that it can be used/accessed as a normal user?

probably not, otherwise, it wouldn't be queued in the spooler even.
Did you check to see if lpd is running?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lee Sau Dan ~{@nJX6X~})
Subject: Re: Symbolic Link
Date: 16 May 1999 23:49:17 +0800

>>>>> "David" == David Noseworthy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    David> Within this directory I created a symbolic link to the /usr
    David> directory.  After creating the link I tested it, and it
    David> seemed to be ok.

The problem lies in the way you tested it.


Try to test it this way:

        $ su - 
        # cd /home/ftp
        # chroot /home/ftp ls -l

Can 'ls' run (you may get an error about 'execvp') ?
Can the symlink resolve now?


Why?  This is  because ftpd does a "chroot"  for anonymous sessions so
as  to prevent unexpected  security holes  in the  program and  in the
setting up of  the directory for anonymous access.   But after chroot,
the  original /bin  and  /lib directories  are  no longer  accessible.
Symbolic links  with reference (absolute or relative)  to the original
root directory will become unresolvable (or simply wrong).

If you  want to  test the  environment, you have  to use  the 'chroot'
command.


 

-- 
Lee Sau Dan                     $(0,X)wAV(B(Big5)                    ~{@nJX6X~}(HZ) 
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| http://www.cs.hku.hk/~sdlee                        e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |
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From: "Kevin Huang" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: moving directories
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 03:47:20 -0700

#mkdir /(your_new_volume_name)
#mount /dev/(your_new_hdd) /(your_new_volume_name)
#cp -prad /var /(your_new_volume_name)
#rm -r /var
#ln -s /(your_new_volume_name)/var /var



Deven Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:7hprlg$6im$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I am running Slackware on 2.0.29. My production server is running out of
> disk space and I would like to change over the /var and /home to a new 9GB
> HDD. I was wondering of the best way to do this, since if we just mount
> separate partitions of the same name as these 2 directories, there will be
2
> of them at once, and if we first rename the existing directories, then for
a
> short time the server will be left with no directory called /var
>
> TIA
> deven
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dustin Puryear)
Subject: pc speaker
Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 11:18:17 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I would like to change the default pitch and volume of my pc speaker. I did
look in the sound-howto and browsed around the kernel source tree, but didn't
find anything. I assume it is adjustable in the source for a driver somewhere,
it must be in /usr/src/linux, but I'm a little lost as to where. Any help?

-- 
Dustin Puryear
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jon Skeet)
Subject: Re: silly windows
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:26:39 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> k.....i'll elaborate.....i get these commands are in all operating
> systems.....but y do they us the same syntex....eg postfixes in ftp are
> '-'[unix] not '/' like in other windows things......how come, i would have
> thought that the operating system would use there own all the time, or the
> standar all the time so not to confuze poor users....or am i just an
> idealistic youth?

Well, the people who are most likely to use these commands (as opposed to 
GUIs to do the same things) are Unix people, I'd guess - so instead of 
confusing "normal" users (who rarely touch the command line, IME - some 
command line utilities I've written have prompted many complaints from 
people who don't have the concept of a command line) they're just helping 
"power" users who are probably used to Unix.

-- 
Jon Skeet - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.pobox.com/~skeet/

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From: "Axel H�lzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Filesize larger than 2 GB on Intel machines an Linux 2.0.36
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:11:21 +0200

Hi,
is there any solution to work with files larger than 2 GB on
Intel-processor based machines? I am running RedHat Linux 5.2 with
kernel 2.0.36. I heard about patch for kernelversions 2.2.x.

Thanks in advance

    A X E L

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Willett LADS LDN X7563)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU reeks of Communism (returning to %252522GNU Communism%252522)
Date: 18 May 1999 09:31:36 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
        Ketil Z Malde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>"FM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> It's more like, there was problem X, untouched for many years,
>> finally resolved by government initiation. The suggestion that
>> private initiatives would have contributed better in terms of
>> universal education is rather laughable.
>
>Why?  Weren't there adequate schooling in the US before socialized
>education began?  How much higher is literacy now, compared to before
>socialized education, and compared to nations that have suffered no
>such system change in the same period?
>

Not wanting to be an apologiest for Communism but...
literacy in Cuba is higher than in the USA or UK.

Mike


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris Wilson)
Subject: Very Strange Sound Problem: Please Help
Date: 18 May 1999 09:30:49 GMT

I'm using Red Hat Linux 6.0, and I'm having an odd sound problem on my
machine.  When I first start my computer, I can play my sound applications
just fine -- at first.  After several usages of any sound app on my machine,
my sound apps will cease to emit sound when playing a local file or streaming
a remote file.  However, the application will indicate that the file is
playing perfectly, and I'll recieve no error messages at all.  Still, no sound
will emit again until I restart my machine.

I have no idea why this is happening, but it's extremely annoying. Does
anybody have any explanations of the problem or potential solutions?  If so,
please respond, and CC your reply to my email address.

Also, I should mention that I've only recently configured sound to work on my
system, and hence there was never a point at which sound worked perfectly for
Linux on this machine.

--Chris


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From: Swietanowski Artur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:41:23 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Personally, I recomend against over-clocking for serious work.
> Pushing a 300a to 450 puts the chip *very* close to it's tolerances.
> This may be fine for games where a slipped bit or a lockup doesn't
> really hurt anything, but it is certainly *not* acceptable for
> scientific numerical compulations.

General serious work is one thing, and serious numerical computation 
is another. I once wrote a large scale optimizer so robust 
numerically, that a few bugs in the factorization got discovered 
only by code instrumentation, as the 'driver' routine would recover 
from nearly all numerical errors, as long as they were not too 
frequent. 

Infeasible primal-dual interior point methods are probably even 
more robust by design (they are usually implemented with some 
simplifications of the algorithm, supposedly required for 
convergence, yet they do converge). Again, an algorithm with a few 
(serious but non-lethal) bugs will simply converge more slowly.

There are some numerical applications where an occasional slipped 
bit would create havoc, but these are not all, by any means. 

All of the above discusses only the robustness w.r.t. errors in 
the computation data. But obviously...

Performing numerical computation involves not only data, but also 
code. Since *all* of the processing involves the processor's 
interpretation of the code, I think that the chances of getting a 
slipped bit there (i.e., getting the code misinterpreted) are bigger  
than chances of misinterpretation of a result. And a mistake there 
will in most cases be almost immediately lethal to the program (and 
would not escape unnoticed). 

Therefore I'd strongly suspect that a processor that behaves well 
under general heavy load (like kernel compilation), will behave well 
under any circumstances. After all, it still spends at least half of 
it's time and effort on intepreting the code. 

To summarize: I don't see 'scientific numerical computation' as 
more susceptible to errors, than any other computation. As I pointed 
out above, in some cases it is more robust than most other 
computation.

Regards,
=====================================================================
Artur Swietanowski                    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Institut f�r Statistik,  Operations Research  und  Computerverfahren,
Universit�t Wien,     Universit�tsstr. 5,    A-1010 Wien,     Austria
tel. +43 (1) 427 738 620                     fax  +43 (1) 427 738 629
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: advice partion etc
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:22:39 GMT

Hi there,

I would appreciate some suggestions from people
that have been in my situation or from any other that
have the knowledge.
I am about to install Linux on a newly aquired pc.
I will run Linux almost exclusively but I do need to
have some M$ stuff on it (work requirement). I also
need some space to try out other linux distributions.

Also can I use wine to run most M$ office stuff if needed?

So suggestions on how to partition, and how to boot etc
would be nice.

My system is:

PIII-450
256 Mb ram
10 Gb IDE disk


Best regards
JS


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From: "gunslinger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: imblib - libpng
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 12:35:14 +0200

have a problem on redhat 5.2,

updated the imlib to 1.9.5, get error "libpng 1.0.2 broken ....use 1.0.1".

But i have libpng 1.0.1 !

reinstalling the imlib 1.8xx, everything is ok.

what went wrong? i need the newer imlib for some progs to install.

ideas anyone?

greets g.



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From: "Simon Gaukroger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Partiton Problem With RedHat 5.2
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 06:41:01 -0000

Hey guys and gals,
      I had four partitions on my 10Gb hard drive. I wanted to install
Windows 98, NTServer 4.0, NT Workstation and RedHat5.2.

     I encountered a problem when I tried to add the Linux partitions during
the RedHat setup. It said that the partitions were too big and that my drive
had -3000Mbytes of space. I was stuck until I just had my primary partition
and free space left.

    I was just wondering what happened and why it wouldn't let me install it
on a disk that had four partitions on it.

  Thanks in advance,
       SIMON

P.S. Does anyone know an FTP site to download KDE in RPM format. One that's
in or close to Australia would be so helpful. So it doesn't take all day to
download.



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From: "Justin Paulsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dvd
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:29:28 +0200

where can i get software to run dvd's on red hat six


sorry i am new to this



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From: Andrei Lebedev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with this kernel???
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:48:08 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> the following messages:
>       request_module[block-major-3]: Root fs not mounted
>       VFS: Cannot open root device 03:0a or ttyp(3,10)
>       Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:0a or >ttyp(3,10)

It is very like that you have compiled IDE (EIDE or whatever the
interface driver to your hard-disk is) driver as a module. Access to
the root file systme should not be compiled as a module, rather it
must be compiled in the kernel!
Look in your configuration file for block devices (CONFIG_BLK_DEV...)

HTH,
Andrei

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Interference on screen
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 10:27:31 GMT

I'm  a newcomer to Linux and recently installed RH6.
I'm very impressed, but have found one major annoyance.

Occasionally, when I am using Gnome and typing in a window over which
the mouse pointer is placed, a series of flickery vertical lines
appear under the mouse pointer. These can be quite large (up to a
third of the height of my screen) and are very distracting. I have
tried a number of screen resolutions but the problem persists. It
always occurs if I open a terminal and type whilst the mouse pointer
is over terminal.

Does anyone recognise these syptoms, and more importantly, does anyone
know how to cure it?

TIA,



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From: Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with this kernel???
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 11:05:16 +0200

HI,
do you have a scsi-disk for your /-partition?
if so then see if you have compiled your scsi-driver as a module.
if so change it. you cannot compile this drivers as a module if you need
it to boot. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> 
> I am having the worst time getting kernel 2.2 7 to work.  I've done
> everything that is supposed to be done(in reference to the Kernel-HOWTO
> and other various sources) but the thing will not boot. The make process
> went fine, with a few obstacles, but no errors were detected.  I copied
> the zImage and System.map into the directory that LILO uses to boot and
> edited /etc/lilo.conf accordingly. When I try to boot the kernel I get
> the following messages:
>       request_module[block-major-3]: Root fs not mounted
>       VFS: Cannot open root device 03:0a or ttyp(3,10)
>       Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:0a or ttyp(3,10)
> 
> I've compiled and patched a kernel before but this is the first time
> I've ever seen this occur.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks.
> 
> -Ben
> 
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A simple (reliable) browser
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 20:06:26 +0100

On Fri, 14 May 1999, Aamer Nazir wrote:

> Hi,
> Can anyone please recommend a simple and reliable browser(under X) ? I am
> currently using Netscape, and it simply takes up a lot of resources(I don't
> know
> why :) ).  All I need is a browser with good enough fonts and colors :).
Font have nothing to do with the browser.  Get a true type font server if
Type 1 fonts aren't render well enough (http://www.freetype.org/)

David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steve Lamb)
Crossposted-To: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Eudora-like mail program for linux? (With Filters etc)
Date: 17 May 1999 18:31:33 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sat, 15 May 1999 18:21:40 -0400, Charles Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>The 'which' command will find procmail only if procmail is on your path.
>Try using the 'find' command.   If that doesn't work either (and you've used
>it correctly),  then your comment is justified and you'll have to install
>it.

    ZING!!!  Lemme lower it a bit for you.  Procmail is not installed on my
system.  To make the assumption that procmail is installed on any system is a
bad thing.  People could, for example, be using exim which provides filtering
and have no need for procmail.  

-- 
         Steve C. Lamb         | I'm your priest, I'm your shrink, I'm your
         ICQ: 5107343          | main connection to the switchboard of souls.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Chung)
Subject: Re: How do you PRINT SCREEN ?
Date: 17 May 1999 19:20:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>Recently installed redhat 5.2 on Pentium IBM clone. Printer works
>fine with lpr. Cant figure out how to print individual screens when
>displaying text files with less or vi. Any help will be much
>appreciated.

I believe what you want is this: (from man less)
  | <m> shell-command
  <m> represents any mark letter.  Pipes a section of
  the input file to the  given  shell  command.   The
  section  of  the  file  to  be  piped is between the
  first line on the current screen and  the  position
  marked  by  the  letter.  <m> may also be ^ or $ to
  indicate beginning or end of file  respectively.  If
  <m> is . or newline, the current screen is piped.
              
Just pipe to lpr or a2ps
-- 
Andrew Chung                    [EMAIL PROTECTED]
See http://anderoo.dhs.org/~anderoo/pgp.html for PGP key

It's a sin only if you dwell on the what ifs and the but ifs

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From: Keith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux on Dual Pentium-II machines
Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 08:57:54 GMT

With the present generation of Celeron processors you can use a PGA
processor in a Slot-1 adaptor which already contains the SMP
modification. I have a pair of Celeron 300A processors running quite
happily in my home machine. Just remember you need NT or Linux to take
advantage of the second processor.

I guess Intel will stop connecting the SMP pin from the die if dual-
Celeron machines become popular.

Just my opinions,

Keith.

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Marc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [snip..]

> Hi
> A Celeron isn't capable of SMP. You'd have to go into a lot of extra
> work in order to get it done. this involves more than just a
> screwdriver.
>
> Bye
>
> Marc
>

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