Linux-Misc Digest #271, Volume #20 Thu, 20 May 99 08:13:08 EDT
Contents:
[?] GNOME + KDE applications (Francisco Cribari)
Re: Big Tar problem (jason)
ISDN: Reconnecting the second channel. ("Craig Manske")
Re: RedHat 6.0 and gcc. Where? (Mark Howson)
Re: Looking for FREE Java IDE builder (FoT)
shutdown lockup ("Ted Hand")
Re: Pop Authentication for Sendmail (Gary Mills)
Re: gcc ? ("D. Vrabel")
Re: How to execute a.out ("Oliver D. Bedford")
RedHat 6.0 and demand dialing for ppp (Conway Yee)
imlib 1.9.4 + e0.15.5 share pixmap trouble ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Need help setting up system. (John Thompson)
Re: Acrobat4 acroread from Netscape 4.07 (RH 5.2) (Peter Stein)
Re: Netscape java40.jar problems (guest)
Re: Calendaring (William Burrow)
Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
(Jason T. Nelson)
Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test (Lew Pitcher)
Re: A Capitalists view of freedom (George MacDonald)
Re: car mp3 player (rs)
Re: PPP Madness (**Nick Brown)
Re: creating RH 6.0 CD - Part II (David Nedrow)
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From: Francisco Cribari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: [?] GNOME + KDE applications
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:41:05 -0500
I have just upgraded from RH 5.2 to 6.0 (intel) and I am running
Linux w/ GNOME. I am having a couple of problems.
1) I have also installed all of the KDE RPMs from the RH CD. However,
when I try to open some of the KDE applications (under GNOME), they
crash. Some work (e.g., xdvi), but the icons are messed up. For
example, when I try to open kmail, I get the following error:
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$ kmail
We are starting normaly
ERROR: cannot load bitmap /opt/kde/share/apps/kmail/pics/stopwatch.xbm
kmail: QPixmap::convertToImage: Cannot convert a null pixmap
kmail: QPixmap::convertFromImage: Cannot convert a null image
kmail: QPixmap::convertToImage: Cannot convert a null pixmap
kmail: QPixmap::convertFromImage: Cannot convert a null image
kmail: QPainter::begin: Cannot paint null pixmap
kmail: QPainter::setPen: Will be reset by begin()
*** KMail got signal 11
*** KMail got signal 11
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$
I should also mention that the KDE applications show up in my GNOME menu.
As for KDE:
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$ rpm -qa | grep kde
switchdesk-kde-1.7.0-1
kdebase-1.1.1pre2-2
kdelibs-1.1.1pre2-2
kdesupport-1.1.1pre2-1
kdeutils-1.1.1pre2-1
kdenetwork-1.1.1pre2-1
kdemultimedia-1.1.1pre2-1
kdegraphics-1.1.1pre2-1
kdeadmin-1.1.1pre2-1
kdegames-1.1.1pre2-2
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$
2) I have installed the enlightenment and Window Maker RPMs, but have
not been able to use either one. When I use FVWM2, all is well. My
.xinitrc file is
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$ cat .xinitrc
xrdb -merge ~/.Xdefaults
# xsetroot -solid darkgray
# xv -quit -root /home/cribari/images/grayback.xpm
# xearth &
# xterm -geometry 80x60+0+0 &
# xterm -geometry +500+0 &
# xclock -digital -geometry -0+0 &
panel &
# background-properties --init &
# keyboard-properties --init &
# mouse-properties --init &
ical -iconic &
# exec wmaker
exec fvwm2
# exec enlightenment
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$
It only works w/ the exec fvwm2 line. When I coment it out, and
uncomment either the one above it or the one below it, it does not
work. These window managers are installed:
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$ rpm -qa | grep Windowmaker
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$ rpm -qa | grep WindowMaker
WindowMaker-0.52.0-2
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$ rpm -qa | grep enlighten
enlightenment-conf-0.15-5
enlightenment-0.15.5-32
[cribari@edgeworth cribari]$
This happens even when I am logged in as root.
How can I run GNOME with elightenment and/or WindowMaker?
Thanks. Best, Francisco Cribari.
________________________________________________________________________
Francisco Cribari-Neto voice: +55-81-2718420
Departamento de Estatistica fax: +55-81-2718422
Universidade Federal de Pernambuco e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recife/PE, 50740-540, Brazil web: www.de.ufpe.br/~cribari/
IBM: It is slow, but at least it's expensive.
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From: jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Big Tar problem
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 13:12:54 -0400
I think this is a 'feature' -- my guess is that the kernel won't allow tar
to chown/chgrp files to the owner/group specified in the tar file. This is
a good thing, since users can't just untar a suid root-owned executable to
facilitate their hacking of the system. :-) However, since root is the
super-user, when root untars a file, root has sufficient permissions to allow
the chown/chgrp-ing of the files to the owners specified in the tar file.
(When a tar archive is created, the owner/group of the files is stored in the
archive. Sometimes the owner/group may match the UID/GID of someone on your
system, in which case you'll see the files owned by some user/group on your
system with the matching UID/GID. If they don't match some UID/GID on your
system, that's when you see them owned by numbers.)
As for your vmware/mtv problems, I think that they might not be related to this.
I don't know what they could be, without more information.
Hope this was fairly clear,
-jason
(to reply via email, make the appropriate substitution in my email address)
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From: "Craig Manske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: ISDN: Reconnecting the second channel.
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 12:15:59 -0500
Reply-To: "Craig Manske" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I have a Motorola BitSurfr Pro on my Linux box. Is it at all possible to
reconnect the second B channel after it is dropped without bringing the
whole TA offline and dialing the while thing again? Someone told me that
was a function of ipppd, can I use ipppd with an external ISDN TA?
Thanks for the Help.
--
Craig Manske ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
IT Supervisor
Stanek Tool Corp. (http://www.stanek-tool.com)
New Berlin, WI
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From: Mark Howson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RedHat 6.0 and gcc. Where?
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 10:45:21 +0100
Rich Piotrowski wrote:
> I just did a clean install of RH 6.0. When I tried to complile a
> kernel, It complained that it could not find 'gcc'.
>
> Much to my surprise, gcc does not seem to be installed, nor is it on
> the CDROM!
Without having seen the CD, I would guess you should look for 'egcs'
instead of 'gcc' (egcs being a rapidly developed offshoot of gcc).
http://egcs.cygnus.com/
Mark
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From: FoT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.softwaretools,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for FREE Java IDE builder
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 11:47:24 +0200
Al Dev wrote:
>
> Which is the most popular GNU/GPLed "free" IDE builder for Java on
> LINUX platform??
> something using JDK 1.2?? I saw one called FreeBuilder
> http://www.freebuilder.org
> But is there a better/more popular one?? Or FreeBuilder is the ONLY
> ONE?
http://www.netbeans.com
Looks great on screenshots, easy install.
I haven't used it however because the system requirements for the
Java1.2 version are a bit high.
Starting up is very, very slow on my current machine, and seems to quit
on me when it comes to building the main screen.
I'll try and run it on my new to come machine.
Be sure to get the blackdown JDK1.2 first.
FoT
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From: "Ted Hand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: shutdown lockup
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 06:01:01 -0400
Have installed RH 6.0...When I shutdown: shutdown -h now
all servers and processes stop, looks like a normal shutdown, but at the end
the screen fills with random numbers/charcters and computer locks
ups....only a reset will get it back.....
any help...
thanks in advance
Ted Hand
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Gary Mills)
Crossposted-To:
alt.comp.linux.xxx,alt.comp.linux.isp,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,computer42.mail2news.linux-alert,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Re: Pop Authentication for Sendmail
Date: 19 May 1999 17:29:51 GMT
In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Roland Nadeau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is a problem for possable spam relaying. Can someone point me to
>a fix to use POP to authenticate or
> any other possable fix.
One solution for roaming users is described at...
http://mail.cc.umanitoba.ca/drac/index.html
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From: "D. Vrabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: gcc ?
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:30:54 +0100
On 19 May 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Is there a way to allow #defines to start with a number,
> i.e. #define 100_xxx 100
> gcc 2.7.2.3 chokes on this where it used to just about a warning...
> For reasons I rather not go into, I like to maintain compatability
> with 2.7.2.1 which had this behavior
Urg! What are you doing this for? Can't you just change all the 100_xxx
to something else? It would probably be better in the long run.
David
--
David Vrabel
Engineering Undergraduate at University of Cambridge, UK.
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From: "Oliver D. Bedford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to execute a.out
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:34:43 +0200
Gezhi Hu wrote:
> Can anybody tell me how to run the a.out file? Or else can anybody point
a) Type "./a.out" if you are in the directory.
(check for correct permissions)
b) Add "." to your path. Might be a security risk.
c) Move your programm to a directory which is in your path. Might only
work if you
are root.
> me to where to find the answers?
Reading is sometimes better than writing.
Oliver
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From: Conway Yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RedHat 6.0 and demand dialing for ppp
Date: 19 May 1999 14:13:24 -0400
I have been using diald for the 2.0.x kernels.
Now that I have change over to RedHat 6.0, it appears that I have to use
pppd for demand dialing.
The documentation for demand dialing is relatively sparse. I know I need
demand and idle but the active filter rules elude me. What is the format
for filters? I have a tough time figuring out the output of tcpdump.
Where can I find adequate documentation?
I need to rewrite /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup used in RedHat 6.0
so that demand dialing is supported.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: imlib 1.9.4 + e0.15.5 share pixmap trouble
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 17:41:26 GMT
Enlightenment (e-0.15.5) tells me upon startup that Shared Pixmaps
are not enabled in my imlib (1.9.4) config (/usr/local/etc/imrc).
I've changed imrc to set SharedPixmaps to 'on', but enlightenment
still complains. Do I need to recompile something?
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establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." - T. Paine
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From: John Thompson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help setting up system.
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 21:31:05 -0600
Bev wrote:
> Just for curious, why do most people use lilo rather than loadlin, which
> merely requires that you type 'win' or 'linux' at the C:\> prompt and
> leaves the MBR untouched?
loadlin is only an option if you have a DOS partition
available to run it from.
--
-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Stein)
Subject: Re: Acrobat4 acroread from Netscape 4.07 (RH 5.2)
Date: 19 May 1999 17:55:11 GMT
In article <7hcjic$3n9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Stein) wrote:
> Has anyone gotten this to work?
>
> If I setup acroread as a helper application I get a segmentation
> violation on any PDF file. If I setup acroread as a plugin I get
> a bus error.
>
> Yes, I know RH 5.2 is glibc, and yes, Acrobat4 is libc5 (don't
> ask me why Adobe did this). I've been running both glibc and
> libc5 apps successfully since I upgraded to RH 5.2. It's beyond
> me why acroread can't be started successfully from Netscape.
Problem solved. I upgraded to RH 6.0 and also upgraded Netscape to
4.5.1-5 (the latest RPM) and the serious problems went away. There
is a minor error related to X on startup, but Acroread 4 runs fine
as a helper app now. Unfortunately I do not know what step solved
the "segmentation violation". RH 6.0, the new netscape rpm, or both?
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From: guest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape java40.jar problems
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 09:42:14 -0700
Hi
Set the MOZILLA_HOME variable to point to the netscape directory. In RH i think
it is in /lib/netscape by default. I'm not sure as to why. But i have a bunch of
netscape versions in my /opt and i set the environment variable to point to it
and it works fine.
Dexter Plameras wrote:
> Im having problems with netscape java40.jar. Netscape cannot find java40.jar
> in its class path. I was wonder if some one could advise me on what to do or
> send a copy of the netscape bash script to set the environment for netscape.
>
> Im running
> Redhat 5.2
> netscape communicator 4.01
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (William Burrow)
Subject: Re: Calendaring
Date: 19 May 1999 16:11:05 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 19 May 1999 05:54:50 GMT,
Cameron Spitzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I think I'll write a program named "the"; nobody will *ever* be able to
>find it.
Somebody did write a program called ``THE'' -- it might be findable
due to the caps though. ;)
--
William Burrow -- New Brunswick, Canada o
Copyright 1999 William Burrow ~ /\
~ ()>()
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jason T. Nelson)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: Pro-Unix vs anti-WinTel (was: Re: Is Unix a single user operating system?)
Date: 19 May 1999 17:56:58 GMT
According to david parsons <o r c @ p e l l . p o r t l a n d . o r . u s>:
> At least you don't have blowhards like Rex Ballard, so you can thank
> your blessings that FreeBSD isn't popular yet. But it's starting to
> show up in the computer media, so I'm not going to expect the Usenet
> reenactment of Yugoslavia in the 1990s to end any time soon.
Isn't popular yet? Oh dear. Please excuse me while I try and stiffle a
roaring guffaw.
--
Jason T. Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
BOFH Extraordiaire
http://www.eboai.org/~jtn/
disclaimer: My opinions are my own. Don't bother my employer about them.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: * * * Mindcraft offer to re-run Linux vs NT test
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:33:40 GMT
On 19 May 1999 18:05:23 GMT, Paul Gregg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Why Red Hat? How does their commercial success make them the "Linux Community"?
>[snip]
>
>Basically because RedHat has the resource to put to it. When the benchmarks
>were released Mindcraft claimed that noone in Redhat would help them with
>tuning. RedHat responded saying that had it come through the proper channels
>then they would have assisted in the Tuning of the Redhat box.
I use a Slackware distribution. Does that mean that I don't belong to the
"Linux Community"? I'm glad that Red Hat offered support for the product that
they sold, but that doesn't make them the sole representative of the "Linux
Community" any more than S.U.S.E or Slackware or Debian or Caldera.
I agree that Mindcraft could have received service through Red Hat (yes, I did
know that Mindcraft used a Red Hat release, and was entitled to such service),
but that doesnt mean that Red Hat is the exclusive voice of the "Linux Community".
They are a bookstore selling a popular book, not the author of the book.
>So, if you knew all the facts before blowing your crap (true information,
>but crap nonetheless) all over the place then you may have posted otherwise.
Apparently, you resort to name-calling when you can't muster a real argument.
Pity.
>It is in the interests of the Linux "Community" to have the test rerun to
>prevent Microsoft further exploiting the first results.
Yes, I agree. Who is the authoritative voice of the "Linux Community" who
will approve of the test? And who is the authoritative voice of the "Apache
Community" who will also approve the test?
>Personally, I would prefer a NT vs Linux vs FreeBSD... then we'd see
>who really wins (Hint: It wouldn't be NT or Linux)
>
>Paul.
>--
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>Technical Director | INTERNET | System Administrator |
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System Consultant, Integration Solutions Architecture
Toronto Dominion Bank
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: George MacDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.linux.advocacy,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: A Capitalists view of freedom
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 18:41:44 GMT
David Kastrup wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenneth P. Turvey) writes:
>
> > On 19 May 1999 00:02:53 +0200, David Kastrup
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > [Snip, I'm not even going to comment on the fear aspect.]
> >
> > >No honest person has a chance to make any use of a weapon he might be
> > >carrying if a hoodlum chooses to attack him with a weapon. The
> > >hoodlum will not stand there as an open target and start the process
> > >by warning the other person. The honest person has no option to shoot
> > >potential hoodlums unawares. For that reason, the general easy
> > >availability in bearing arms is heavily disparaging honest people.
> >
> > Statistics don't bear you out.
>
> Unfortunately, they do. Your chance of death by shooting in the
> U.S. is about a factor of 5 higher than in comparable countries with
> gun control. The school shootings are just an insignificant top of
> the iceberg.
>
> > The most successful way to defend against rape is with a handgun.
>
> What percentage of rapes has been avoided by the use of a handgun?
> Have any statistics?
>
> > This does increase the risk of accidental shooting, and the risk of
> > the `hoodlum' getting the gun (from zero to something finite), but
> > the risk of rape drops dramatically.
>
> Where have you got your numbers from? How many rapists will let their
> victim fumble with her handbag?
>
> > Just because you believe you have no use for a gun doesn't mean that no
> > one has a need for one. I don't need a gun to defend myself either, but
> > I am pleased that I have the right to if necessary.
>
> Unfortunately, so has everybody else. And the persons that have the
> best "private" use for guns are those you would not want to have guns.
It's interesting to note that the most likely reason for the "right to
bear arms" is not to protect oneself from other citizens, but to protect
the citizenry from the government. Recall at the time of the american
revolution the "government" was the enemy. Also note the way the bill
of rights are written, i.e. the do not gaurantee your rights to free
speech, or to due process ... They *prevent* the government from
passing laws to restirct these "rights". Why do you have to *protect*
the *people* from the government? The answer - human nature. There
is always a certain percentage of humans who would willingly use
whatever means(laws, rules, ...) to deprive you of life, liberty
and the persuit of happiness. It's also a fundamental precept
of any republic that the *people* are more powerful than the
government. Throughout history it is almost always the other
way arround, and I would venture to say a republic is a
very difficult thing to acheive and to keep.
These are also the wrong newsgroups for this discussion. If you
wish to debate the issue, then please go elswhere.
--
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Build a good layer, stand strong, and prepare for the next wave.
Guide those who come after you, give them your shoulder, lend them your code.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (rs)
Subject: Re: car mp3 player
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 19:32:10 GMT
On 13 May 1999 16:04:06 GMT, David L. Bilbey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm looking into constructing an mp3 player for my car. I've searched the
>web, but come up with lots of useless (for me) info. Basically, what I'm
>looking for is a linux mp3 program that I can use for the playing. It
>should support keypad control, and ideally, output to an LCD screen. Does
>anyone have any pointers. If not, where can I get info on writing one
>myself? Thanks.
>
>David Bilbey
I've actually made my own MP3 player which boots from DOS using a
OCP251, which I hacked to utilize the joystick and an LCD display.
It uses a p200 cpu and an asus socket7 MB, 32MB RAM and a standard
SB16. I have a 200MB IDE harddrive in a removable bay. I could put a
bootable ISO image or a bootable floppy diskimage file on the page if
anyone is interested.
Here is a link to the picture if anyone is interested.
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Chip/2359/2f.html
--
Richard
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From: **Nick Brown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: PPP Madness
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 12:54:28 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
First rule when using kppp is to have a clean /etc/ppp directory with
nothing in it:
cd /etc
mv ppp ppp.x
mkdir ppp
A lot of the default settings for ppp (provided in the /etc/ppp/* magic
files by your Linux distro) are not right for kppp.
> Michael Rathburn wrote:
> :have used thier scripts done it manually and allsorts of wierd things have
> :happened all I want to do is use my linux machine to learn about unix step
> :by step but it seems you have to read more crap than a Philadelphia lawyer
> :on a case with no precedent !
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Nedrow)
Subject: Re: creating RH 6.0 CD - Part II
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 14:19:15 -0400
On Tue, 18 May 1999 19:38:25 -0400, Bob Cunius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Ridge format iso image file using the windows port of mkisofs. However i
>still cannot get linux to install. It now fails in the second stage of the
>loader. Here is the error code the linux install program gave me: error in
>exec of second stage loader :-(
Bob,
Check each of the ls-lR files in the directories to be sure that all of the
appropriate symlinks exist and that all permissions are correct. I had a
number of problem with the second stage until I figured out that I was
missing a large number of symlinks.
Once I walked the directory tree checking ls-lR files against the actual
contents, I was able to create all of the appropriate symlinks. Don't panic
if it looks like a symlink points to nothing. Many of the symlinks actually
point to files that won't exist until the actual installation boot.
Setup the links, check the permissions, burn a new disc and you should be
working.
--
David Nedrow
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